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AlDrag

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#318988 11-Mar-2025 18:03
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I currently own a Dream Machine SE. I stupidly bought it as an impulse buy when I purchased a new home, as my coworker has one and raves about it.
I do admit, it's bloody nice and do love the UI, but it's definitely super overkill for my small townhouse.

We really want to get some security cameras setup. Maybe about 3 outside (1 at the front, 1 doorbell and 1 at the back. Another on the side would be a bonus, but I can't see a feasible way to get Ethernet there yet).
I bought the Dream Machine, as I figured I would go with Ubiquiti. But the more I look into their camera pricing and stock issues, the more I regret going with this ecosystem. Reolink in comparison seems to be waaaaay cheaper for what you get. Although the sensor size of their turrets are surprisingly smaller than Ubiquitis (1/2.4" vs 1/2.49").

 

I'm pretty tech savvy and tempted to scrap this router in favour of a cheap TP-link solution or something and then go with a custom Reolink solution with Frigate etc.
Any opinions?
Or maybe Ubiquiti's setup is THAT good that I should stick with it. I'd obviously lose some $$$ selling this router after all.

So far I'm looking at getting a Unifi G5 Turret Ultra and maybe a Reolink equivalent to compare (or the Reolink doorbell, as the Ubiquiti doorbell is madly priced, although the screen is cool).


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  #3352716 11-Mar-2025 19:38
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Friend of mine just got a Reolink PTZ (I just got back from helping him set it up) and it seems pretty decent.  It does live tracking in-camera and has a dual lens, wide to capture the whole area + zoom for detail.  He's replacing a Dahua + Frigate with this, which so far seems better performance at 1/4 the cost.




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  #3352766 11-Mar-2025 19:41
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neb:

 

Friend of mine just got a Reolink PTZ (I just got back from helping him set it up) and it seems pretty decent.  It does live tracking in-camera and has a dual lens, wide to capture the whole area + zoom for detail.  He's replacing a Dahua + Frigate with this, which so far seems better performance at 1/4 the cost.

 

 

 

 

Wow that's dirt cheap compared to the unifi PTZ haha.

 

I wonder what the reolink software is like though.


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  #3352768 11-Mar-2025 19:43
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As far as I am aware, reolink cameras are ONVIF which means that you could have a mix of both with a Ubiquiti NVR/UDM. I am personally a Ubiquiti supporter and love the easiness and simple cloud access that doesn't cost anything.




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  #3352771 11-Mar-2025 19:50
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JemS:

 

As far as I am aware, reolink cameras are ONVIF which means that you could have a mix of both with a Ubiquiti NVR/UDM. I am personally a Ubiquiti supporter and love the easiness and simple cloud access that doesn't cost anything.

 

 

 

 

Sort of. While yes, Unifi Protect has ONVIF support, it's extremely basic. It only supports live view and recording, nothing else. No events, no audio even. Further support won't be added as they've expressed this is just for onoarding new customers with existing camera systems to ease the transition. Plus Unifi cameras do all their processing on the camera itself, which is weird....but I guess it means you never need to upgrade the NVR for more processing features...


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  #3352779 11-Mar-2025 20:03
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I've got a couple of RLC-830A's and a few static Reolinks and I'm pretty happy with them.

 

They are way cheaper from Reolink's own store on Aliexpress than they are from PB Tech etc.





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  #3352790 11-Mar-2025 20:13
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Lias:

 

I've got a couple of RLC-830A's and a few static Reolinks and I'm pretty happy with them.

 

They are way cheaper from Reolink's own store on Aliexpress than they are from PB Tech etc.

 

 

 

 

How's the software for quickly scrubbing video and motion events? All of that is free I assume? 

 

Are you using your own NVR?


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  #3352918 11-Mar-2025 22:25
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AlDrag:

 

Are you using your own NVR?

 

 

I'm not using an NVR or any of their native stuff, just an RSTP stream to my Milestone Xprotect server.





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  #3352969 12-Mar-2025 09:07
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AlDrag:

 

Sort of. While yes, Unifi Protect has ONVIF support, it's extremely basic. It only supports live view and recording, nothing else. No events, no audio even.

 

 

Can't you add one of their AI Port modules in front of "dumb" cameras to add all the Unifi AI/smart detection stuff? 

 

I just looked up the price tho... $431+GST!!


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  #3352974 12-Mar-2025 09:19
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SumnerBoy:

 

Can't you add one of their AI Port modules in front of "dumb" cameras to add all the Unifi AI/smart detection stuff? 

 

I just looked up the price tho... $431+GST!!

 

 

 

 

Yea it's insane, and apparently it still doesn't provide audio support for 3rd party cameras. Just ridiculous.

The more I think about it though, I think I might stick with Unifi. I already have the overpriced router/nvr. And the G5 Turret Ultra is the perfect form factor for my home and surprisngly well priced compared to reolink turrets. Just wish it had a bigger sensor and was 4k. Oh well.


  #3352977 12-Mar-2025 09:28
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I built a new house a couple of years ago and made the decision to go all-in with Unifi. I have never once regretted that decision. Might have cost a bit more than buying cheaper networking gear and cameras, but everything "just works", there are constant upgrades and improvements to the software, and everything is configured and maintained thru a single "pane-of-glass".

 

I recommend it to anyone who asks, especially those that are not network engineers (i.e. pretty much everyone!).


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  #3353102 12-Mar-2025 12:59
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Screw it, ordered a G5 Turret Ultra in black. I want to at least experience what the software is like and go from there. Not toooo bad, $250, and it has a slightly bigger sensor compared to Reolink's turrets (and comes in black).
Maybe I will order the Reolink doorbell, because it's so cheap, and see how I like the software integration from each.


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  #3353152 12-Mar-2025 13:17
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The AI Port is apparently going to support up to 5 unifi cameras in a future update. I'll probably grab one then.

 

 

 

Turret Ultra is my plan for the the front of our new build, along with the PoE Doorbell, and a few G3 Flexs around the place.


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  #3353160 12-Mar-2025 13:24
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lxsw20:

 

The AI Port is apparently going to support up to 5 unifi cameras in a future update. I'll probably grab one then.

 

 

 

Turret Ultra is my plan for the the front of our new build, along with the PoE Doorbell, and a few G3 Flexs around the place.

 

 

The AI features do feel a bit gimmicky. Supposedly license plate detection doesn't work that well at a distance, and with the Turret Ultra, the sensor is probably not large enough to see the license plates properly at a distance at night anyway.

I think I heard face detection is also a gimmick. Not sure how well the other features work though, like detecting colour of the car etc.


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  #3353276 12-Mar-2025 19:07
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AlDrag: I wonder what the reolink software is like though.

 

I can let you know in a couple of days.  AFAIK it's all accessible via ONVIF, he's going to hook it up to the same Frigate setup the Dahua was on.


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  #3353277 12-Mar-2025 19:08
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neb

 

I can let you know in a couple of days.  AFAIK it's all accessible via ONVIF, he's going to hook it up to the same Frigate setup the Dahua was on.

 

 

 

 

Looking forward to hearing about it :) 


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