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Topic # 229119 8-Feb-2018 14:33
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All I can say is nothing like this would ever happen in the US. They can't even get a guaranteed 2 week vacation

German workers win right to 28-hour week
CNN by Alanna Petroff


http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/07/news/economy/germany-28-hour-work-week/index.html

"Labor union IG Metall secured an unprecedented deal this week to give a large portion of its 2.3 million members more flexible working hours and a big pay rise.

From next year, workers at many of Germany's top engineering firms -- such as Mercedes-Benz owner Daimler (DDAIF) -- can opt to work 28 hours a week for up to two years, before returning to the standard 35-hour week.

The deal was negotiated with representatives of more than 700 companies in southwest Germany. It is expected to have ripple effects across German industry.

'This sets the standard for everyone else,' said Megan Greene, chief economist at Manulife Asset Management.

IG Metall said the flexibility would help employees who want to care for children or relatives. Pay will be reduced to reflect the shorter working week. The deal also gives workers the option to work 40 hours to earn more.

German workers are taking advantage of low unemployment and strong economic growth to flex their muscles.

'You can expect similar deals to come in other sectors and regions soon,' said Famke Krumbm├╝ller, a partner at OpenCitiz, a political risk consultancy.

And non-unionized workers could also benefit from the agreement as firms that employ IG Metall workers offer the same terms to their wider workforce."

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  Reply # 1953684 8-Feb-2018 15:12
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Apparently Germany has 1/3 of their population going into retirement and need more working class. As per this documentary I stumbled upon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n87ZHRFXXdA

 

 

 

Edit: Would be awesome to work a 28 hour week without worrying about all the bills that need to be covered


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  Reply # 1953686 8-Feb-2018 15:18
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A German guy I was talking to once (a brewer) said the German 35 hour week is somewhat misleading.  The expectation if for workers to be at their work station with necessary materials ready to go at the official start time and clean up is undertaken after the working day ends.  So in his role he was working pretty close to an 8 hour day, while being paid for 7.





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  Reply # 1953687 8-Feb-2018 15:20
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MikeAqua:

 

A German guy I was talking to once (a brewer) said the German 35 hour week is somewhat misleading.  The expectation if for workers to be at their work station with necessary materials ready to go at the official start time and clean up is undertaken after the working day ends.  So in his role he was working pretty close to an 8 hour day, while being paid for 7.

 

 

 

 

That sounds like misuse of the 35 hours work week, by saving the company 5 hours of pay a week


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  Reply # 1953688 8-Feb-2018 15:26
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dryburn:

 

Apparently Germany has 1/3 of their population going into retirement and need more working class. As per this documentary I stumbled upon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n87ZHRFXXdA

 

 

Germany's elderly dependency ratio ie +65/ working age is the second highest in the OECD (21%)  behind Japan, (25%)

 

NZ's is (14%)  

 

https://data.oecd.org/pop/elderly-population.htm


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  Reply # 1953700 8-Feb-2018 15:45
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wellygary:

 

dryburn:

 

Apparently Germany has 1/3 of their population going into retirement and need more working class. As per this documentary I stumbled upon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n87ZHRFXXdA

 

 

Germany's elderly dependency ratio ie +65/ working age is the second highest in the OECD (21%)  behind Japan, (25%)

 

NZ's is (14%)  

 

https://data.oecd.org/pop/elderly-population.htm

 

 

Did they have a post WWII baby boom too?

 

 





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  Reply # 1953701 8-Feb-2018 15:48
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MikeAqua:

 

A German guy I was talking to once (a brewer) said the German 35 hour week is somewhat misleading.  The expectation if for workers to be at their work station with necessary materials ready to go at the official start time and clean up is undertaken after the working day ends.  So in his role he was working pretty close to an 8 hour day, while being paid for 7.

 

 

 

 

That's not unusual in Europe IME.

 

In the UK, if I employed contractors on site, the day began when they arrived and ended when they left - unlike here, there was no way I expected a bill for them to sit in a van driving home.






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