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OnceBitten

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#3171795 14-Dec-2023 20:55

wellygary:

MrGadget:

I think you will find the photo's do not count to the icloud storage, so you can spend a lot of time clearing out for nothing. See what is using the space - Settings - iCloud (your name) - iCloud - Manage Account Storage. This will show you the iCloud usage, largest to smallest.

There used to be a free service called "My photo stream" that would sync your photos across I-Devices without storing them in the cloud...

Apple killed it earlier this year, with the general consensus being that the closure was to force users to opt for a paid tier iCloud plan...

Now-days any photo syncing needs you to have enough iCloud storage equivalent to your device photo storage...

thanks - yes I got the message about my photo stream and took all the photos out so they are in another folder (album) in photos but they are still in Library so that's all good

I looked at the iPhone and turned iMessage on, so will see if that makes a difference

on the iPhone I also went into settings / iCloud, clicked on photos / manage storage and this came up (attached photo)

will I lose everything if I press Turn off and Delete from iCloud? - will this affect wifes phone or anything?

I don't want to press delete then suddenly all photos are gone forever

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#3175759 27-Dec-2023 14:25

This whole text message / iMessage just gets weirder and weirder.....

wife and I were on holiday over Xmas.... I sent her texts, she got them and replied as normal and I got her replies all ok, but last night in the supermarket I text her 3 times and got no reply... then she phones me and asks if I got her text replies.... nothing has changed on my or her iPhone

she text me this morning and everything was ok - we were both able to send and receive texts fine... so something weird is going on.....

I may have to pop into a one.nz store and ask them

I don't see why I need to have iMessage on just to receive a standard text message

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#3175777 27-Dec-2023 16:01

OnceBitten:

I don't see why I need to have iMessage on just to receive a standard text message

You don't have to have it, but once you have it then your contacts will be sending imessages to you, and if you have no data connection available then it will not get to you until you have a data connection.

Sometimes senders devices will re-send as an SMS if the contact has a number associated with it, but the number of people i have seen who have had 2 contacts for the same person and only one has the mobile number on it is quite high.

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#3175863 27-Dec-2023 18:47

lxsw20:

Either turn it on, on every device or turn it off. It will get very confusing if its on on some and not others.

Personally i'd turn it on on everything.

https://support.apple.com/en-nz/HT207006

Did you do this?

OnceBitten

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#3175900 27-Dec-2023 23:20

richms:

You don't have to have it, but once you have it then your contacts will be sending imessages to you, and if you have no data connection available then it will not get to you until you have a data connection.

yes - this is what I'm worried about

I don't use data to send texts and I'm not about to start.... so if iMessage was on and I was in the supermarket or somehere else with no wifi I couldn't send or receive a text (iMessage) without my data being turned on or being connected to Wi-Fi?

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#3175906 28-Dec-2023 07:20

We all get your concern about the data use, however it’s very minimal.

A variety of posts on google about this very subject suggests that you would have to be sending about 1000 standard size messages a week (of about 150 characters and excluding photos), to consume at least 1 or 2 mega bytes. Remembering there’s 1000 mega bytes to a gigabyte so in theory you would need to send around 10,0000 iMessages to consume 1GB of data.

did you have iMessage on your previous phones?

What is your current plan allow for data?

OnceBitten

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#3175914 28-Dec-2023 08:14

Goosey:

We all get your concern about the data use, however it’s very minimal.

A variety of posts on google about this very subject suggests that you would have to be sending about 1000 standard size messages a week (of about 150 characters and excluding photos), to consume at least 1 or 2 mega bytes. Remembering there’s 1000 mega bytes to a gigabyte so in theory you would need to send around 10,0000 iMessages to consume 1GB of data.

did you have iMessage on your previous phones?

What is your current plan allow for data?

thanks for the reply

I can't remember if I had iMessage on my previous iPhone 4s.... if I did I didn't use it or didn't know anything about it.

I always keep mobile data turned off on my phone - except if I need to check an e-mail or something when I'm out and about and not connected to any wifi.... I don't see a reason to leave it turned on.... I did that about 2 years ago and within a day all my data had gone.... so someone must have used my phone as a personal hotspot or something?

Vodafone / one.nz moved me to a my flex plan (prepaid) in Nov? and I do get a lot more data / minutes apparently (I was on their $9 plan)

My main concern is I've never needed or used iMessage before - I've managed to send and receive texts fine as a standard text.... it was just one person who sent me a text about 3 weeks ago that I never got, and that text ended up under messages on my iPad... and I don't know how / why that happened

I don't send a lot of texts - I'm lucky if I do 4-5 a day...

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#3175917 28-Dec-2023 08:46

Right,

Anything comming to you / being sent as iMessage is coloured blue, anything over sms is green (you know, those boxes the messages sit in)

in regard to data usage, that instance you referred to about data being used up all in one day wasn’t someone using your phone as hotspot.

it was your phone trying to update its apps.

you can stop all updates and apps from using mobile data.

you can goto each app (goto ‘settings’ and on the left hand side, scroll down until you see the all your apps in alphabetical order),
go into each and every app from this settings screen and flick off the option to use mobile data
You also need to check what’s what under settings and then ‘mobile data’.
you also need to check under ‘settings’,’ general’, ‘software update’, and check you haven’t got auto updates on.

this will help your data usage.

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#3175918 28-Dec-2023 09:09

Goosey:

Right,

Anything comming to you / being sent as iMessage is coloured blue, anything over sms is green (you know, those boxes the messages sit in)

in regard to data usage, that instance you referred to about data being used up all in one day wasn’t someone using your phone as hotspot.

it was your phone trying to update its apps.

you can stop all updates and apps from using mobile data.

you can goto each app (goto ‘settings’ and on the left hand side, scroll down until you see the all your apps in alphabetical order),
go into each and every app from this settings screen and flick off the option to use mobile data
You also need to check what’s what under settings and then ‘mobile data’.
you also need to check under ‘settings’,’ general’, ‘software update’, and check you haven’t got auto updates on.
this will help your data usage.

You can have all the (imo) advantages of iMessage when you're at home on Wi-Fi by doing this - but without risk of using any cell data, by also doing @Goosey 's bullet points above. When you're out and about, just temporarily turn on data for Messages when you want to send or check for texts - as you have been doing until now.

You can leave all your apps set up for auto-update if you wish - so that they do get updated via Wi-Fi when you're at home - so long as you have done all Goosey's steps, to prevent updates via cell data.

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#3175919 28-Dec-2023 09:10

Wouldn't SMS only end up on an iPad if relayed by a linked iPhone? How would the phone not show the message?

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