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mattlaing

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  #361247 1-Aug-2010 22:56
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Thanks for the responses.

I feel suitably comforted that I'll get a replacement in due course.



khaos999
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  #361283 2-Aug-2010 00:42
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Hi 
I have a similar fault with my iphone 4 32GB device, I purchased mine on launch day at a Vodafone direct store everything works great except that when I make or receive a phone call the other person can not hear me.

Also the earpiece quality is very poor and crackly, I have tried many restores but this still fails, I have a Tomtom car-kit which I have tested and the speaker is fine but still the other person can not hear me.

I have not yet taken this to Apple nor Vodafone store as I know that nothing happens during the weekend but will see them first thing Monday.
Generally with Apple products these are sent away to  a distributer for a DOA process but since this is only the first week of the Iphone 4 launch and all stock is sold out a replacement will not be available straight away. As to being put on priority Que. this is something Im not sure of.




Balchy
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  #361320 2-Aug-2010 08:08
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PaulBrislen: Hi Matt, as I said on Twitter, unfortunately there's not much we can do at this point for a variety of reasons... there ARE no phones in country at the moment and your situation is covered by Apple's process, not ours.

Usually Apple treats repair/replace situations with priority so I don't think you'll be waiting 3+ weeks for a replacement unit. But you still have to go through either the 0800 number or, as JohnR says, take it back in store and see what you can get.

A note on loaner handsets in general - we used to do them religiously but all too often the customer would drop off a phone for "warranty" repair, take a loaner and then refuse to return it when it turned out their phone wasn't covered (for whatever reason).

This happened often enough that the stores (who have to buy these loaner devices) have either swapped to handing out phones nobody would really want to steal or not doing it at all.

Cheers

Paul


Correct me if I am wrong - But I was working for a dealer when the concept of loan phone first came out.  We did not have to purchase the phone, but rather they were supplied by MFR, and we simply had to manage them.

Surely if you could get the bond process correct this wouldnt be an issue.  We had people take phones every so often, but it certainly wasnt endemic, as you seem to suggest.




For billions of years since the outset of time, every single one of your ancestors survived, every single person on your Mum and Dads side, successfully looked after and passed onto you life.  What are the chances of that like?



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  #361363 2-Aug-2010 09:38
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Pity the Vodafone dude wouldnt tell us why so many customers were missled on Friday.......never seen anything so pathetic.

If he came clean I may even switch back to Vodafone. Nothing like the truth.

SpudInNZ
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  #361376 2-Aug-2010 09:54
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PaulBrislen: Hi Matt, as I said on Twitter, unfortunately there's not much we can do at this point for a variety of reasons... there ARE no phones in country at the moment and your situation is covered by Apple's process, not ours.

Usually Apple treats repair/replace situations with priority so I don't think you'll be waiting 3+ weeks for a replacement unit. But you still have to go through either the 0800 number or, as JohnR says, take it back in store and see what you can get.

A note on loaner handsets in general - we used to do them religiously but all too often the customer would drop off a phone for "warranty" repair, take a loaner and then refuse to return it when it turned out their phone wasn't covered (for whatever reason).

This happened often enough that the stores (who have to buy these loaner devices) have either swapped to handing out phones nobody would really want to steal or not doing it at all.

Cheers

Paul


OK I simply have to respond to one point here:
 " and your situation is covered by Apple's process, not ours. "

Assuming that the phone was not bought for business use, the Consumer Guarantees Act applies: your contract is with Vodafone, not Apple. Whatever Apple's process is, however long they say the warranty is for, what they think their replacement options are, are not relevant - unless they are making offers over and above those you are entitled to under the law, in which case go for it!

But I'm not suggesting that puts you in a better position in this case: pretty much your only legal options here are get your money back or wait for a repair, because of the stock situation.

Know your rights!

http://www.consumer.org.nz/reports/consumer-guarantees-act/the-guarantees



MikeyPI
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  #361451 2-Aug-2010 11:39
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SpudInNZ:
PaulBrislen: Hi Matt, as I said on Twitter, unfortunately there's not much we can do at this point for a variety of reasons... there ARE no phones in country at the moment and your situation is covered by Apple's process, not ours.

Usually Apple treats repair/replace situations with priority so I don't think you'll be waiting 3+ weeks for a replacement unit. But you still have to go through either the 0800 number or, as JohnR says, take it back in store and see what you can get.

A note on loaner handsets in general - we used to do them religiously but all too often the customer would drop off a phone for "warranty" repair, take a loaner and then refuse to return it when it turned out their phone wasn't covered (for whatever reason).

This happened often enough that the stores (who have to buy these loaner devices) have either swapped to handing out phones nobody would really want to steal or not doing it at all.

Cheers

Paul


OK I simply have to respond to one point here:
 " and your situation is covered by Apple's process, not ours. "

Assuming that the phone was not bought for business use, the Consumer Guarantees Act applies: your contract is with Vodafone, not Apple. Whatever Apple's process is, however long they say the warranty is for, what they think their replacement options are, are not relevant - unless they are making offers over and above those you are entitled to under the law, in which case go for it!

But I'm not suggesting that puts you in a better position in this case: pretty much your only legal options here are get your money back or wait for a repair, because of the stock situation.

Know your rights!

http://www.consumer.org.nz/reports/consumer-guarantees-act/the-guarantees




They arent contracting out their responsibilities, merely pointing that Apple has a process in place, and on first apperance, it doesnt seem to contravene the act. Also I dont think you could get a refund, I'm pretty sure you have to give the retailer opportunity to repair the device first. 

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  #361453 2-Aug-2010 11:41

Just to be clear, I wasn't talking about the legal process - personal use does indeed come under the Consumer Guarantees Act... but the CGA does not say anything about time frames etc other than it should be "reasonable".

I'm talking about how we implement that responsibility - for most handsets we follow our own process. For iPhones we follow Apple's process, neither of which ducks the CGA.

Cheers

Paul




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  #361456 2-Aug-2010 11:44

Mikey beat me to it.




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  #361475 2-Aug-2010 12:03
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Paul

You've been strangely silent on the fiasco of last week despite a 114 page thread on it here, as the Head of Corporate Communications shouldn't you be communicating on that one too?

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  #361493 2-Aug-2010 12:16

No.




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langers1972
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  #361500 2-Aug-2010 12:23
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Your attitude as the representative of the company on this forum is quite often bordering on arrogant but that's astonishing.

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  #361506 2-Aug-2010 12:28

Why?

I'm the comms guy - I'm a former reporter and a users of these and other forums (fora?).

I have always appreciated a straight answer and try to give answers that are direct and to the point and which don't waste anyone's time.

I could go for the marketing speak but then no doubt someone would get upset about that - as I would if I were asking a question and getting fobbed off.

I can't comment on the launch so I won't.

That's the longer version...

Paul




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wellyg33k
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  #361516 2-Aug-2010 12:39
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langers1972: Your attitude as the representative of the company on this forum is quite often bordering on arrogant but that's astonishing.


Are you serious? How hopelessly delusional you are, the man clearly can't tell you for some reason or another and doing so would probably jeapordise his job. i bet if you were in the same position you wouldn't be sitting there running your mouth about it

ahmad
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  #361523 2-Aug-2010 12:47
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^^
What he said.

There is a clear distinction between what Paul CAN say and what he would LIKE to say. Sometimes to two happen to be the same. I'm guessing (although Paul couldn't possibly comment) that in this case the two differ.

While I have been critical of "Vodafone New Zealand" and Apple on the iPhone 4 situation, there is no point in blaming the company mouthpiece.

Sorry I didn't mean to label you a piece of eqiupment Paul Tongue out

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  #361534 2-Aug-2010 13:01

Definitely not the worst thing I've been called this week... and it's only Monday!

Paul




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