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#423231 1-Jan-2011 20:10
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Looks like its a worldwide problem, www.cultofmac.com even quoted me in their front page feature, as New Zealanders were the first to experience the problem!

Be interesting to see the fallout as the US and Europe move into 2011. 



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  #423312 2-Jan-2011 07:31
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How hard is it to make an alarm go off???!?

I would have thought it was pretty simple, when time x = preset alarm time y then sound alarm. Have Apple overcomplicated something??

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  #423318 2-Jan-2011 08:31
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trig42: How hard is it to make an alarm go off???!?

I would have thought it was pretty simple, when time x = preset alarm time y then sound alarm. Have Apple overcomplicated something??


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  #423323 2-Jan-2011 08:39
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Funniest thing is that when I posted on my Twitter about this problem yesterday the lot of Apple fanboys who wouldn't stop saying "I don't have a problem because it's a holiday"...

Sure, it's a good smartphone experience. But DST failed to happen, with alarms triggered in wrong time. Then alarms don't go off at all. Add the problems with dates on calendar and you have to think about how a company can charge in the thousands for a phone that has so many little problems.

Individually each problem may not be a big deal, but together it would kill any other product...




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  #423326 2-Jan-2011 09:13
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Apparently it is some issue with the 2 days being in the last week of 2010. The first week of 2011 start on Monday.

Odd they would program non-recurring alarms to check that, but maybe the daylight saving fix used a common routine. Many pages of replies on the apple forum, so hopefully there will be a fix for 1/1/2012.




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  #423329 2-Jan-2011 09:43
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Shadowfoot: Apparently it is some issue with the 2 days being in the last week of 2010. The first week of 2011 start on Monday.


Odd they would program non-recurring alarms to check that, but maybe the daylight saving fix used a common routine. Many pages of replies on the apple forum, so hopefully there will be a fix for 1/1/2012.


Or when iPhone 5 comes out..




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  #423340 2-Jan-2011 10:48
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freitasm: Funniest thing is that when I posted on my Twitter about this problem yesterday the lot of Apple fanboys who wouldn't stop saying "I don't have a problem because it's a holiday"...

Sure, it's a good smartphone experience. But DST failed to happen, with alarms triggered in wrong time. Then alarms don't go off at all. Add the problems with dates on calendar and you have to think about how a company can charge in the thousands for a phone that has so many little problems.

Individually each problem may not be a big deal, but together it would kill any other product...


While I don't for a minute think it is totally OK for such bugs to arise, you have to take the good with the bad and make a device/OS choice that satisfies your individual needs best overall.

Much like how Microsoft (who I would of thought would make damn sure they got Exchange right) haven't satisfied you enough to get you to move from WinMo6.5. Or Android where users might have to wait many months for an OS update that might never come at all. Or my last Symbian the Nokia E72, the supposedly flagship business device that was so laggy and buggy for many months through multiple updates that didn't achieve much if anything.

The list goes on, where one manufacturer falls down they get everything or at least most other stuff right.

 
 
 

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  #423341 2-Jan-2011 10:51
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Bring on the perfect smartphone!

Maybe it will be an HP Palm WebOS superbeast!?!?

*cough*

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  #423344 2-Jan-2011 10:58
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Something tells me that with more and more of these problems occurring (unlike the Apple we know), people will start to look at other devices rather than just choosing the iPhone for the sake of wanting to be popular. It won't happen overnight, but it will happen... (thanks Rachel Hunter).

Now this is coming from an ex-iPhone user, so definitely not being biased.

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  #423345 2-Jan-2011 10:58
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scottjpalmer:
freitasm: Funniest thing is that when I posted on my Twitter about this problem yesterday the lot of Apple fanboys who wouldn't stop saying "I don't have a problem because it's a holiday"...

Sure, it's a good smartphone experience. But DST failed to happen, with alarms triggered in wrong time. Then alarms don't go off at all. Add the problems with dates on calendar and you have to think about how a company can charge in the thousands for a phone that has so many little problems.

Individually each problem may not be a big deal, but together it would kill any other product...


While I don't for a minute think it is totally OK for such bugs to arise, you have to take the good with the bad and make a device/OS choice that satisfies your individual needs best overall.

Much like how Microsoft (who I would of thought would make damn sure they got Exchange right) haven't satisfied you enough to get you to move from WinMo6.5. Or Android where users might have to wait many months for an OS update that might never come at all. Or my last Symbian the Nokia E72, the supposedly flagship business device that was so laggy and buggy for many months through multiple updates that didn't achieve much if anything.

The list goes on, where one manufacturer falls down they get everything or at least most other stuff right.


I don't disagree - there's no perfect smartphone, as there's no perfect OS. It's just that for some people, pointing out their smartphone or OS is buggy is almost a sin.

There's also that part of the psychology of buying something expensive and then trying to justify any small glitches.

 




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  #423348 2-Jan-2011 11:01
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Apple is asking the iPhone users to let the iPhone be off for New Year days! :-(

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  #423354 2-Jan-2011 11:19
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freitasm: I don't disagree - there's no perfect smartphone, as there's no perfect OS. It's just that for some people, pointing out their smartphone or OS is buggy is almost a sin.

There's also that part of the psychology of buying something expensive and then trying to justify any small glitches.


Ahhh yes, the true fanboy :-)

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  #423358 2-Jan-2011 11:28
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evertime thing like this happen apple call center allways close. and then an update will come and call center will reopen. this type of game we all love.




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  #423395 2-Jan-2011 14:31
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Some of these bugs have been in iOS for years, it's quite suprising that they still haven't been fixed yet.
I filed a bug report the other day for a separate but related bug.

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  #423416 2-Jan-2011 15:43
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The annals of software engineering are filled with many, many, many stories of date and time code failures. For someone to write a calendar application or library without being aware of them is disappointing.

For that person to be at Apple (in contrast to some nameless outsourcing code factory) is doubly disappointing.

Given that Apple has decades of OS development knowledge, with thoroughly tested and debugged date and time libraries available to them, I can only exclaim: how can you possibly screw this up?!?

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