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  #1256667 11-Mar-2015 22:10
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khull: Not the first instance an Apple product increased in price after launch. Same can't really be said with other competing product lines


Wrong. My first iPhone was a 4. The 4, 4S. 5, 5S, all cost the same for the 64GB model



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  #1256673 11-Mar-2015 22:16
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alasta:
Dunnersfella: Since when did price stop people purchasing Apple products?
If it did, we'd see everyone buying Acer e-machines, telco branded handsets etc.


There has to be a line drawn somewhere. Would you pay $2000 for an iPhone? $5000?


I don't get this.Since the 4, the Samsung equivalent storage phone was just a few dollars cheaper. That hasn't changed. The exchange rate has moved a lot. If other manufactures hang on and allow margins to be sacrificed, that isn't really an Apple issue.

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  #1256689 11-Mar-2015 23:00
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Wade: Look on the bright side, that beautiful new 5K retina macbook looks like a relative bargain at a measly $1999 buy in


I think you mean iMac, the new MacBook is only 2304×1440 resolution



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  #1256690 11-Mar-2015 23:02
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tdgeek:
Dingbatt: Last report I read had Apple making $US400 profit on each iPhone sold. The retailers margins are slim, Apple's are not.


Why are Samsung phones similarly priced to Apples on release? 


because people buy them at that price.  The market expectation for a flagship seems to be around 1100$

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  #1256708 11-Mar-2015 23:32
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tdgeek:
Dingbatt: Last report I read had Apple making $US400 profit on each iPhone sold. The retailers margins are slim, Apple's are not.


Why are Samsung phones similarly priced to Apples on release? 


because people buy them at that price.  The market expectation for a flagship seems to be around 1100$


And they tend to quickly drop to half that on specials, unlike iphones. Early adopters pay more for that privilege.

Historically since the iphone was released, the NZ dollar is relatively strong, so I don't think there is any justification for a price rise for NZ cusomters at least. If anything , I think it should have gone down in price. At least it should have dropped when the NZ dollar was around the 80-90 cent mark over the last couple of years. The other thing is that the Australian dollar has dropped a lot against the US and NZ. I think they are basing the price rise on the weak Australian dollar, and Apple NZ  all appears to be operated from over there.

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  #1256712 11-Mar-2015 23:43
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nathan:
Wade: Look on the bright side, that beautiful new 5K retina macbook looks like a relative bargain at a measly $1999 buy in


I think you mean iMac, the new MacBook is only 2304×1440 resolution


Doh, I skimmed the text while oogling the pics on some non apple site, must have misread it or was a typo

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tdgeek:
Dingbatt: Last report I read had Apple making $US400 profit on each iPhone sold. The retailers margins are slim, Apple's are not.


Why are Samsung phones similarly priced to Apples on release? 


The above posts have answered the question I think you were asking.

Why are Samsung phones similarly priced to Apple( ' )s on release? Because that's what the market will stand.

However what you actually asked can be answered by saying Apples are around $2.99 a kilo at the moment, which considering Samsung's approach to marketing by scatter gunning the market place with such a full range of products, is quite apt ;-)




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To put some scale on the currency fluctuation situation, Apple lost more in the last financial quarter ($3.7 billion USD) due to these fluctuations than Google made in profit ($2.8 billion USD). They still made another record profit over and above that, but that sort of loss is too bonkers to just absorb. 



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  #1256786 12-Mar-2015 08:35
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JimmyC: To put some scale on the currency fluctuation situation, Apple lost more in the last financial quarter ($3.7 billion USD) due to these fluctuations than Google made in profit ($2.8 billion USD). They still made another record profit over and above that, but that sort of loss is too bonkers to just absorb. 




And yet they just gratefully accepted the extra gains when the currency fluctuations worked in their favour earlier.

I guess it's hard to write stuff off against tax when you hardly pay any tax either, so they are forced to jack the price.

Despite all the altruistic proclamations about wanting to make people's lives better at their launches, in the end it's all about the money. That's business, if you don't like it, go elsewhere.




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  #1256798 12-Mar-2015 08:47
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tdgeek:
khull: Not the first instance an Apple product increased in price after launch. Same can't really be said with other competing product lines


Wrong. My first iPhone was a 4. The 4, 4S. 5, 5S, all cost the same for the 64GB model


Was not referring to that. I am talking of time value of money return for a particular Apple product

iPhone (very first gen depending on state)
iPod nano 6th generation
iPod classic (before being axed)


all have increased in price over a particular duration of the lifecycle

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  #1256841 12-Mar-2015 09:30
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Dingbatt: 



Despite all the altruistic proclamations about wanting to make people's lives better at their launches, in the end it's all about the money. That's business, if you don't like it, go elsewhere.


This. 


People really need to start taking ownership for their decision when buying products. 

Apple don't owe the world anything - they're a business, who make oodles of money and are proud of doing so. 
They operate a brand that is enormously popular and this makes people (rather misguidedly) believe they are somehow emotionally intertwined...

Apple makes product. 
Apple sells product. 
Apple makes money. 

If the price goes up too much, there will be a tipping point and people will stop buying, but at the end of the day, they have held their pricing for years. 

Nobody seems to complain on line when a new Jaguar goes up in price. 




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Only thing which is surprising about this price increase is that they blame the declining dollar for this move however the price of all the iPad models hasn't changed. How can it only affect some products and not others from the same company if our declining dollar is the reason?




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  #1259691 15-Mar-2015 15:57
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hmm ... ipads musn't be selling all too well eh

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  #1260174 16-Mar-2015 12:38
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joker97: hmm ... ipads musn't be selling all too well eh


Exactly. They are still selling truckloads of iPhones, but not nearly as many iPads.

Also, I think the price increase is more to do with the fact that they are selling so many, they figure they can jack up the price and people will still buy. They're probably right.

Someone who was going to get a 128GB, will now just get a 64GB instead - Apple still get their money, and give them a lesser phone in return. More profit.

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