Whatever became of Apple not providing a charger

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#303631 24-Feb-2023 08:02

Left Apple ages ago and haven't really looked back. Been a few years since I purchased an iPhone but soon to do so for a family member. My search skills seem to be failing me, whatever happened to the hoopla around phone companies not providing power bricks?

I recall there were initial protests around the device not being fit for purpose etc (can't charge it so surely that's a fundamental fault). I know it's not just an Apple thing either.

I recall Apple were made to provide bricks in some countries because of their consumer laws, and a vague recollection in other countries that Apple would provide a brick on redemption of a purchase. Did anything happen in NZ or did everyone just move on?

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#3041165 24-Feb-2023 08:06

The market moved on, pretty much no handset comes with a charger now.

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#3041168 24-Feb-2023 08:34

Rumour has it that this year's iPhone is going to need a new charger, and knowing Apple you'll probably have to buy it separately.

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#3041170 24-Feb-2023 08:39

Behodar:

Rumour has it that this year's iPhone is going to need a new charger, and knowing Apple you'll probably have to buy it separately.

I guess that's the next scam, sorry "customer experience improvement"... each new device needs a new type of charger to get the best out of the improved charging system.

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#3041171 24-Feb-2023 08:42

Behodar:

Rumour has it that this year's iPhone is going to need a new charger, and knowing Apple you'll probably have to buy it separately ….

…. and possibly a new type of cable too.

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#3041175 24-Feb-2023 09:00

scuwp:

Behodar:

Rumour has it that this year's iPhone is going to need a new charger, and knowing Apple you'll probably have to buy it separately.

I guess that's the next scam, sorry "customer experience improvement"... each new device needs a new type of charger to get the best out of the improved charging system.

They are being made to move to USB-C by the EU. I don't really see it as a bad thing if all common phones (Android/Apple) use the same charger.

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#3041181 24-Feb-2023 09:14

Samsung did provide them and Apple had to follow. They tend to copy each other's features, to some extent.

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#3041182 24-Feb-2023 09:18

Having recently purchased a new iPhone (a few weeks ago) I can confirm there is a cable, but no charging brick.

I have an excess of charging bricks in my home, so it's not an issue.

They also have wireless charging available, so if that floats your boat - you can go down that route too.

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#3041194 24-Feb-2023 10:16

Behodar:

Rumour has it that this year's iPhone is going to need a new charger, and knowing Apple you'll probably have to buy it separately.

Not likely. If the iPhone 15 range does move to USB-C, Apple will include a USB-C–to–USB-C cable in the box (rather than the current USB-C–to–Lightning cable they include), and it will work with any Apple USB-C power adapter that they've sold for the past 3+ years.

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#3041214 24-Feb-2023 10:54

Handsomedan:

Having recently purchased a new iPhone (a few weeks ago) I can confirm there is a cable, but no charging brick.

I have an excess of charging bricks in my home, so it's not an issue.

They also have wireless charging available, so if that floats your boat - you can go down that route too.

I find the absence of the brick annoying. I have plenty of USB-B bricks, very few USB-C (which cost $40 from Apple)

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#3041222 24-Feb-2023 11:00

Dulouz:
I find the absence of the brick annoying. I have plenty of USB-B bricks, very few USB-C (which cost $40 from Apple)

You don’t have to buy a charging brick from Apple, there are much better options out there.

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#3041225 24-Feb-2023 11:18

scuwp:

Left Apple ages ago and haven't really looked back. Been a few years since I purchased an iPhone but soon to do so for a family member. My search skills seem to be failing me, whatever happened to the hoopla around phone companies not providing power bricks?

I recall there were initial protests around the device not being fit for purpose etc (can't charge it so surely that's a fundamental fault). I know it's not just an Apple thing either.

I recall Apple were made to provide bricks in some countries because of their consumer laws, and a vague recollection in other countries that Apple would provide a brick on redemption of a purchase. Did anything happen in NZ or did everyone just move on?

Thanks

Apple when ahead with their plan, and now does not provide chargers with i-phones.

I was surprised by the protests. It's hardly a new thing. Apple stopped shipping chargers with it's ipod mini etc over a decade ago. If anything USA outlets are are common these days.

My take is not including everything needed to use a product does not breach NZ consumer law, or ethics, and there are pleanty of examples of such products:

- Printers (even those with no network or Wifi ability) not including USB A to B cable (I must have at least 5 such cables from back when printers did come with them).

- High end bikes not including peddles (buyers fit their own to suit their shoes)

- New Run a bout boats often don't include an outboard engine - allows the buyer to pick the brand and size of engine to suit their preferences and tastes.

In terms what has happened, yes the market has moved on. And other brands have copied them.

As an example for a while Samsung shipped 18 Watt chargers even with phones that supported 25 Watt or more. Samsung then stopped including chargers with their flagship phones, and are stopping on their lower level phones also.

My phone is back from when Samsung shipped their phones with chargers, but regardless I use 5 port charger pictured below. The two blue ports support QC3.0 (Samsung fast charge 18W), with a 63W device limit. Find it much handier, especially when we travel, and need to charge 3x phones, 1x power bank, and what ever other USB things need charging (bluetooth speaker, marine radio, toothbrush etc).

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#3041232 24-Feb-2023 11:25

Dulouz:

I find the absence of the brick annoying. I have plenty of USB-B bricks, very few USB-C (which cost $40 from Apple)

If you are OK with the charge speed, you can keep using your USB A bricks.

Samsung for a while shipped 18W USB A power bricks with their phones that supported 25W + visa USB PD, so there is nothing to say that apple would have included an expensive USB PD Brick with their iPhones, if the did choose to ship it with one.

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#3041237 24-Feb-2023 11:50

Nothing Samsung that I've bought came with more than a lower spec "travel" adapter. They all ran hot and didn't last long. The 15W adapter from my Motorola phone has kept going for over 5 years.

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#3041604 24-Feb-2023 20:11

Apple will provide a new usb c cable this year and it will be 10cm long :P

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#3041685 25-Feb-2023 11:25

Seems strange that iphones don't get an adapter but all iPads are being sold with a USB-C Charge Cable and 20W USB-C Power Adapter.

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