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Obraik

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#315252 25-Jun-2024 23:40
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I installed Beta 2 of iOS 18 today (I usually wait for the second beta) and noticed that it was prompting me about Live Voicemail in the voicemail section of the Phone app. Sure enough, when someone called me they heard Siri talking to them and I was able to read the message they were leaving as they were speaking. I was also able to play back and delete the message from within the phone app (aka, visual voicemail as well).

Of course, my voicemail greeting has always instructed people to txt me rather than leaving a message but for those that don’t follow that, it looks like we will finally be freed from the crappy voicemail systems offered by the carriers here. Assuming this isn’t a bug…




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Benjip
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  #3253313 26-Jun-2024 07:15
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Yep it’s been like that since Dev Beta 1! I posted about it in the existing Live Voicemail thread (which is not exactly named correctly/helpfully):

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=76&topicid=306041&page_no=3#3250744

Which carrier are you with? I’m with One NZ and I’m hoping they don’t force Apple to disable it before public release.



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  #3253323 26-Jun-2024 08:18
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Ah yeah, I did miss that thread.

I’m also on One NZ. I hope they don’t make Apple disable it…or Apple just ignores them as they’re bringing a feature the One can’t/refuses to bring to consumers.




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  #3253340 26-Jun-2024 09:44
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Spark’s visual voicemail works pretty good. Will be interesting to see if they let Apple operate theirs.



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  #3253343 26-Jun-2024 09:51
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Aucklandjafa: Spark’s visual voicemail works pretty good. Will be interesting to see if they let Apple operate theirs.

 

Unless it has improved significantly in the past couple of years, I can't imagine it's anywhere near as fast/native as the built-in iOS version. To me it always felt like a blatant hybrid app.

 

The other benefit of the iOS version is that it has live transcription while they're leaving the message, and you can pick up at any time (kind of like the answerphones you see in 1990s movies).


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  #3253346 26-Jun-2024 09:56
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Benjip:

 

 (kind of like the answerphones you see in 1990s movies).

 

 

Which knowing Apple is where the idea came from ... "That looks cool..... lets make ours do that" 


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  #3253395 26-Jun-2024 09:59
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Benjip:

 

Aucklandjafa: Spark’s visual voicemail works pretty good. Will be interesting to see if they let Apple operate theirs.

 

Unless it has improved significantly in the past couple of years, I can't imagine it's anywhere near as fast/native as the built-in iOS version. To me it always felt like a blatant hybrid app.

 

The other benefit of the iOS version is that it has live transcription while they're leaving the message, and you can pick up at any time (kind of like the answerphones you see in 1990s movies).

 

 

It's obviously not dictating live, but the transcription is good enough. I've never had to playback an actual message because I couldn't make out what the text said.


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  #3253399 26-Jun-2024 10:13
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Aucklandjafa: Spark’s visual voicemail works pretty good. Will be interesting to see if they let Apple operate theirs.

 

Surely there is a cost to operate this app. With this, they may be able to shut it down somewhat. It's a workaround for the native VVM anyway.


 
 
 

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  #3253401 26-Jun-2024 10:34
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I thought live voicemail released with IOS 17? I've been using live voicemail on my phone since iOS 17 came out so I'm not sure why all of you guys have just got it with 18.


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  #3253402 26-Jun-2024 10:36
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stevenn:

 

I thought live voicemail released with IOS 17? I've been using live voicemail on my phone since iOS 17 came out so I'm not sure why all of you guys have just got it with 18.

 

 

This is the first time I've seen it available in NZ. What carrier are you with? Where did you buy your phone?





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  #3253404 26-Jun-2024 10:39
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Obraik:

 

stevenn:

 

I thought live voicemail released with IOS 17? I've been using live voicemail on my phone since iOS 17 came out so I'm not sure why all of you guys have just got it with 18.

 

 

This is the first time I've seen it available in NZ. What carrier are you with? Where did you buy your phone?

 

 

 

 

Im with One NZ and brought my phone in NZ.


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  #3253405 26-Jun-2024 10:39
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What happens if you move out of coverage while the caller is in the middle of leaving a message? For example, if you decline a call while driving because you don't want the distraction, but you're in an area with patchy coverage?

 

Also, does anyone know whether OneNZ allows their voicemail service to be disabled? I'm guessing telco based voicemail would still kick in when out of coverage but I wouldn't really want to have to juggle two separate voicemail services. 


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  #3253410 26-Jun-2024 10:52
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alasta:

 

What happens if you move out of coverage while the caller is in the middle of leaving a message? For example, if you decline a call while driving because you don't want the distraction, but you're in an area with patchy coverage?

 

Also, does anyone know whether OneNZ allows their voicemail service to be disabled? I'm guessing telco based voicemail would still kick in when out of coverage but I wouldn't really want to have to juggle two separate voicemail services. 

 

 

 

 

If im going out of coverage while someone is leaving a message and play the message back it sounds the same as if you were on a call with someone and started going out of coverage. if you were lose service while someone was leaving a message it will just cut the caller off. This has only happened to me once though and even if I'm in bad coverage it usually sounds fine when playing the voicemail back.

 

OneNZ does allow you to disable their voicemail, I think all I did was just call the voicemail number and set a temporary greeting of nothing and make sure it doesn't allow anyone to leave a message. 


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  #3253411 26-Jun-2024 10:53
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alasta:

 

What happens if you move out of coverage while the caller is in the middle of leaving a message? For example, if you decline a call while driving because you don't want the distraction, but you're in an area with patchy coverage?

 

Also, does anyone know whether OneNZ allows their voicemail service to be disabled? I'm guessing telco based voicemail would still kick in when out of coverage but I wouldn't really want to have to juggle two separate voicemail services. 

 

 

Since the phone is answering on your behalf yes, the call will drop if you lose coverage while they're leaving a message. If you're out of coverage when the call is made then it will go to the carriers native voicemail. You can also turn off Live Voicemail if that's an issue.





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  #3253432 26-Jun-2024 11:54
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iPhone 13. iOS 17 , Kogan ( One) network.
Region set to NZ no Live Voicemail option, changed region to US and now see Live Voicemail option
No idea if it actually works

  #3253481 26-Jun-2024 14:00
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I’ve been using Live Voicemail since iOS 17 and as others pointed out it’s only available in US English. It does work, the live transcript and it keeps a recording along with the transcript of the missed call. Obviously a hit/miss depending on the speakers accent but works well otherwise.

 

Not sure if this will be any different to NZ English, maybe a more accurate speech to text. Only thing I’d like is to change the voicemail greeting that Siri says when answering. I heard this part is tied to the carriers VVM over in the US, but maybe someone on iOS 18 could check.


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