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ShinyChrome

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#305965 17-Jun-2023 13:05
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Hi folks,

 

Looking to see what spare pieces floating around in your offices/cupboards of bits and pieces that you CBF dealing with trademe...

 

I'm looking to see what I can cobble together from this era to make a retro battlestation. Not fussed about being period authentic, but mainly compatibility with Windows XP, so from my research, looking at anything spanning the early days of the Core arch up to Haswell for intel (stupidly sold my 4790k years back..) and spanning the Phenom era (AM2/AM3) for AMD, and up to GTX 700 / HD7000 for the GPU, seems to be workable but really will be looking across a broad range.

 

Starting from scratch so looking for the full shebang of CPU/RAM/mobo/case/psu/GPU etc, but in no particular hurry. I am based in the Manawatu.

 

Thanks!


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Hatch
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  #3091041 17-Jun-2023 13:12
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I’ve got something close to a 4790k with a r9 280x, in a black HTPC case with a DVD-Rom I’m needing to offload in the next week.

Based in Auckland, can run it up later tonight and grab exact specs.




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  #3091088 17-Jun-2023 13:23
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Hatch: I’ve got something close to a 4790k with a r9 280x, in a black HTPC case with a DVD-Rom I’m needing to offload in the next week.

Based in Auckland, can run it up later tonight and grab exact specs.

 

Interesting, thanks!

 

I am realising now I should have stated that I am based in the Manawatu, so it might be a bit of a faff with shipping depending what you are after for it.

 

I might be out of luck with the r9 280x though, since I don't see any OEM drivers for Win XP. Should have also stated that, doh!


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  #3091090 17-Jun-2023 13:31
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"so looking at anything spanning the early days of the Core arch and spanning the Phenom era (AM2/AM3) for AMD, and up to GTX 700 / HD7000 for the GPU"

 

 

 

I've got all the above shelved away, will have a dig through it. 

 

 

 

Is this actually a Retro build?  Phenom 1 single core & Intel Core will struggle to run any modern threaded applications.

 

Phenom II or Intel C2 should be OK tho.




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  #3091119 17-Jun-2023 14:54
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K8Toledo:

"so looking at anything spanning the early days of the Core arch and spanning the Phenom era (AM2/AM3) for AMD, and up to GTX 700 / HD7000 for the GPU"


 


I've got all the above shelved away, will have a dig through it. 


 


Is this actually a Retro build?  Phenom 1 single core & Intel Core will struggle to run any modern threaded applications.


Phenom II or Intel C2 should be OK tho.



Thanks!

Yes, I already have a Ryzen 7000 based main gaming rig, as well as various laptops and mini clients from the last 5 years.

This will be purely to be load up my old CD games/whatever I can make work from GoG. I only got into building PCs in the Windows 8 era, so my meter stick is what would my teenage self being gaming/tinkering with in the Windows XP era (with a little bit of leeway for easier to find hardware).

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  #3091135 17-Jun-2023 16:35
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ShinyChrome:
K8Toledo:

 

"so looking at anything spanning the early days of the Core arch and spanning the Phenom era (AM2/AM3) for AMD, and up to GTX 700 / HD7000 for the GPU"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've got all the above shelved away, will have a dig through it. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is this actually a Retro build?  Phenom 1 single core & Intel Core will struggle to run any modern threaded applications.

 

 

 

Phenom II or Intel C2 should be OK tho.

 



Thanks!

Yes, I already have a Ryzen 7000 based main gaming rig, as well as various laptops and mini clients from the last 5 years.

This will be purely to be load up my old CD games/whatever I can make work from GoG. I only got into building PCs in the Windows 8 era, so my meter stick is what would my teenage self being gaming/tinkering with in the Windows XP era (with a little bit of leeway for easier to find hardware).

 

 

 

Sorry, I missed the "XP" part earlier :).  

 

The following link may be of particular interest to you - it's an archived thread from Win-Raid, a forum I belonged to for 10 years before it was shut down in 2021. 

 

A lot of coders and low level guys hung out there that really know their stuff. 

 

 

 

The thread is title is a little bit of a misnomer since Windows XP 32bit doesn't exist. 

 

Fwiw Windows XP x86 supports at least 128GB of RAM - limited only by the CPU. 

 

When AMD released Athlon64 in 2003, M$ (in partnership with Intel) responded with XP SP2 - now XP memory support was no longer just a CPU limitation but also a licensing limitation. 

 

 

 

Windows XP 32-Bit and Server 2003 32-Bit on Modern Hardware


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  #3091160 17-Jun-2023 18:08
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I've got an AMD Opteron 939 with Asus Motherboard, Lian-li black case, can't recall what the gpu was but can check. I'm in your region. Let me know.
Some details: A8N-SLI rev 1.02, AMD Opteron 165, 2GB Ram, Lian-Li Black Aluminum Case

bigalow
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  #3091230 17-Jun-2023 19:45
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I might have what you need and do u need a monitor ?

 

I'm in wellington so you might have to come down to pick it up

 

 





 

 

 


 
 
 

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  #3091247 17-Jun-2023 20:33
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Windows XP/2003 x32 on Modern Hardware FAQ

 

 

 

Above is the live condensed version of the archived thread, hosted on MSFN. Covers most common problems and solutions for running XP on newer hardware. 

 

Includes links to modded/patched install files and drivers. 

 

The OP is a programmer, other contributors include devs like Daniel_K who is well known for fixing issues with Creative's  Audigy/Audigy 2 drivers (for those old enough to remember).

 

 

 

 

 

Stuff I've found: 

 

Intel boards-

 

ASUS P5B Deluxe

 

ASUS P5K/E WiFi

 

 

 

RAM-

 

40GB DDR2 - various densities. 

 

 

 

Another Intel board-

 

ASUS P5E64

 

 

 

Intel CPU's-

 

X3220 

 

E6600 

 

E8200

 

E4400

 

Pentium D (32bit).

 

 

 

AM2-

 

Athlon64 X2 

 

Athlon64 Windsor

 

 

 

Phenom II - various.

 

Still looking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #3091301 17-Jun-2023 23:39
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I have an Asus P5K-E motherboard with 8 Gibytes of RAM that has been sitting around for a long time doing nothing.  It has an Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 CPU.  I even have the box and manual.  I also have an Asus EN8400GS Silent video card that I think used to be used in that motherboard back when it was my main Windows box.  But I think that might be a bit newer than the XP days - I remember running Vista on it.  I got it in 2008.  I do not have a case or power supply to go with it though - the power supply died a long time ago and the case is still in use as my Windows box.  I am in Palmerston North.


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  #3091333 18-Jun-2023 10:15
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I think these things are too old even for Windows XP … more the DOS 3.x and Windows 3.1 era twenty years before: 😀

 

- Genuine IBM AT 8MHz w/intel inboard i386+i387 Coprocessor, 5.25“ 30MB HDD, 1MB RAM. I remember that was for the price of a good middle class car in these days *ROFL*

 

- Genuine Compaq 286 (AMD 12MHz) w/i287 Coprocessor, 1MB RAM

 

- Kontron i386 Laptop w/i387 Coprocessor (what they called „laptop“ - bulky and heavy stuff)

 

- Peacock i486 midi tower

 

 

 

My son is about to sell this antique tech locally for a few bucks to collectors via ebay … too heavy and to far away to ship it.

 

 

 

 

 

 





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bigalow
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  #3091513 18-Jun-2023 16:39
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what i have to sell a pc that comes with

 

 

 

Mitsumi 3½" Floppy Disk Drive (Black) 

 

TwinMOS Dual Channel kit 2x 512MB PC3200 DDR 

 

(been upgraded to 4GB)

 

 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition OEM Operating 

 

 (been upgraded to Microsoft Windows 7 Home Edition OEM )

 

Thermaltake Soprano (Black) Mid-Tower Case

 

Microsoft Basic Value Pack (Black) Keyboard & Mouse

 

Philips 170B6CB (Black) 17" TFT Flat Panel Display 

 

AMD Athlon64 3700+ (2.2Ghz) 1MB Cache *San Diego CPU

 

Gigabyte NVidia GeForce 6600 GV-NX66256DP 256MB 

 

Foxconn NF4K8AC-8EKRS Socket 939 Motherboard

 

Pragmatic FMI-CW52 PCI Internal 56k V90 Modem

 

LG GSA-4166BK Dual Layer Dual Format DVD writer

 

also added another DVD writer

 

NO HARD DRIVES want to keep them as they got things on them

 

PM me if you want to make a offer





 

 

 


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  #3092464 20-Jun-2023 12:03
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Thanks for the overwhelming response GZ! I was expecting maybe a couple of bits, but sounds like there is a lot still kicking around out there which is good! I'll note who has what in case I need spares 😅

 

After doing a bit of research, I decided that the sweet spot for me is probably going to be the 2006-2008 era, which seems like the golden years of XP when Vista was still the new kid on the block. 

 

Looking at buyer guides around that time (even as a digital native, I forget sometimes that 2007 wasn't that long ago in the lifespan of the web!), it seems like the Core 2 Duo was running rampant, so I have decided to build around that CPU on the 775 socket. Since it was so long lived, at least there are a lot of good options to choose from.

 

I've reached out to fe31nz for their parts since they are nice and local to me, but I am now on the lookout for a Geforce 7000/8000/9000 series graphics card, preferably the x800 model or higher, and a case that fits that era, probably something that screams "gamer" for the nostalgia feels haha...

 

I'm also on the general lookout for a decent CRT monitor as well, but they seem to be a little bit harder to come by.

 

Thanks for the info @K8Toledo, I will look through. Looks like it might be an interesting challenge!


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  #3092470 20-Jun-2023 12:20
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Also look on aliexpress for boards from back then. That is how a friend was able to cost effectively get another one that had a vintage PCI slot on it for some hardware they needed - core 2 quad and an aliexpress board was under $150 all up.





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i got a HP 17" CRT monitor for sale

 

cant remember the model number of the top of my head





 

 

 


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  #3092606 20-Jun-2023 14:53
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Wouldnt this be easier ;) https://pcem-emulator.co.uk/

 

Installed Win98 via it a few months ago.... OMG... forgot how long it takes :D

 

 





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