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neon

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#306817 23-Aug-2023 23:41
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Sort of on the look out for a 3080 or a 3070. (I want to play around with some ai stuff so I'm trying to move from amd -> nvidia)

First of all, what exactly is a good price now days, and is there anyone who wants to sell me one for a good price? :)

Ideally something that hasent been mined on, but likely that's asking fir too much haha.

Also ideally Auckland based - but can always organise shipping if the item is elsewhere.

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tangerz
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  #3119675 24-Aug-2023 10:17
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$400-$500 for a 3070 (depending on model) and $600-$700 for a 3080 (depending on model) would be what I'd call reasonable. That's a bit less than people seem to be asking for at the moment so if you'd get one for that is another story...

 

 




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  #3119729 24-Aug-2023 10:37
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Ironically id trust a 'mining' 3060/3070/3080 more than I would trust the reliability of one which had been used for 'gaming'

You would get a 3060ti for 400-500
The higher cards $50-$150 more.

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  #3119735 24-Aug-2023 10:57
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I would have said $500-600 was the price range of a 3070. For an A tier, decent brand one anyway. But it was about 6 months ago I bought mine, wouldn't have thought prices have come down.




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  #3119740 24-Aug-2023 11:08
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You may want something with more RAM than those cards have if you plan is for AI.






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  #3119743 24-Aug-2023 11:31
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Brumfondl:

 

You may want something with more RAM than those cards have if you plan is for AI.

 

 

I'd second that.
Even for gaming. 8GB is already too low for newer releases. Especially 4k textures. Diablo 4, The last of us etc.

$30 extra in part costs is too much for Nvidia.


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  #3119803 24-Aug-2023 14:55
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The 3080 is a far better option if you're looking at AI, with ~50% more TENSOR cores (184/272) (GU102 vs GU104 GPU)

 

If not even the 3070ti has more TENSOR cores, at 192.


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  #3119850 24-Aug-2023 17:02
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I have a 3070 available. Make me an offer I can't refuse.

 

 


 
 
 

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  #3119865 24-Aug-2023 18:16
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Thanks for the responses. Honestly, its not for any hardcore AI stuff. I sometimes have to do some light ai work, and was also keen to play around with some of the image generation models. So any nvidia card would likely be fine for now. Im currently running an AMD 6800 (or was that a 6800XT, i forgot), and thats just a pain for anything AI related since i have to often deal with lot of workarounds. I simply just want to move from AMD -> Nvidia (...although i actually sort of hate nvidia) because it just makes life easier for me. And was looking at the 3070-3080 range as thats sort of what my current card is - and dont really want to spend way too much. If i end up doing any real AI work (doubt it) i will definitely go all the way top a very high tier card.

tangerz:

 

$400-$500 for a 3070 (depending on model) and $600-$700 for a 3080 (depending on model) would be what I'd call reasonable. That's a bit less than people seem to be asking for at the moment so if you'd get one for that is another story...

 


Thanks, this is sort of the range i was assuming, but everything listed seems way too high and seems like nothing is really selling (and no one wants to drop the price). Im not in a hurry, so happy to wait till people become a bit more realistic about pricing i guess?

 


networkn:

 

I have a 3070 available. Make me an offer I can't refuse.

 


Honestly, i cant really give you an offer you cant refuse. The whole point here is to see what people are looking for (if anyone has one for sale) and see if i can justify the price haha. If you actually are trying to sell your 3070, pm me a rough idea of what you are actually looking for and what model of card you have :) Full disclosure, i AM trying to be cheap here, so unfortunately i probably couldn't justify making any offer that people cant refuse lol.


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  #3119867 24-Aug-2023 18:21
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Looks like people want ~$800-900 for a 3080.. which is roughly the same as a 4070 (which is ~$1200 new)

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  #3119868 24-Aug-2023 18:37
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networkn:

 

I have a 3070 available. Make me an offer I can't refuse.

 

 

 

 

 

 

neon I would take networkn up on his offer. I bought a 3070 from him for a very reasonable price earlier this year... :-)


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  #3119869 24-Aug-2023 18:37
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Yeah, not looking to sell my 3070 'cheap' as I didn't buy it 'cheap'. Looking to sell it for 'fair'. Good luck on your search.

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  #3119881 24-Aug-2023 19:30
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An alternative idea, you could get a 1080Ti for $350-400ish which has more VRAM (11 GB) and still plenty of CUDA cores for most applications. 

 

 

 

The 1080Ti has compute capability level of 6.1 while the minimum for CUDA 12.x (latest) is a compute capability of 5.0

 

 

 

This would be a cheaper way of dabbling, and I think you'll quickly find VRAM is your limiting factor if you are touching anything generative... 


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  #3120011 25-Aug-2023 09:54
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Not what you're asking, but I would give Google Colab a try. It's only $17/m (NZD), and you usually get a pretty decent GPU, like 12-15GB VRAM. You get 100 units per months, which for my usage is about 1h = 2 units.

 

 

 

And there are a tonne of pre-made colabs with automatic1111 (and others). e.g. https://github.com/camenduru/stable-diffusion-webui-colab

 

Don't think you said what kinda AI, but pretty sure there will be colabs for GPT type AI if that's your jam.

 

 

 

There are heaps of other online options too, this is just the first one I've tried. Other may be even cheaper?


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