Orcon Fibre : 30mb/s or 100mb/s??

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merknz

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#126922 23-Jul-2013 22:01

So I've read all of the marketing rhetoric, and I want to know the real truth (in the way that only GZers can)
Given that it would be rare to get an international speed of greater then 5mb/s (SFTP or another block protocol) what is the point in 100mb/s full speed fibre?
I'd get a great speed to speedtest.orcon.net.nz but ...

Is there any greater slice of the international pie given to customers subscribing to the higher Bandwidth?

Anyone got the higher speed? is there a discernible benefit?

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#864698 23-Jul-2013 22:01

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#864776 24-Jul-2013 06:20

Two things

a) Who says you'll only get a speedtest of 5Mbps?

b) What do you actually use the internet for? What are you expecting 100Mbps to give you? 100Mbps to every site on the internet?

To the US somewhere in the vicinity of 3Mbps is the maxium you'll get on a single stream TCP steam, but this doesn't mean you're restricted to 3Mbps. To somewhere like Australia providing your ISP isn't restricting things you should be able to get 80Mbps +

vexxxboy

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#864778 24-Jul-2013 07:21

my son has the 100 Mb/s connection and he gets 10 Mb/s as an average speed all the time.

Common sense is not as common as you think.

dwl

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#864794 24-Jul-2013 08:27

merknz: Given that it would be rare to get an international speed of greater then 5mb/s (SFTP or another block protocol) what is the point in 100mb/s full speed fibre?

Much higher download speeds are possible and I have seen 100 Mbps from North America over an Orcon 100 Mbps connection (single threaded) but don't expect this during busy times (here or overseas) or when settings aren't optimal. However, as has been covered in other posts, a typical speed for UFB providers for international traffic of 2-3 MBps (16-24 Mbps) is more common and there may not be always be much difference between the 100M or the 30M plan for long distances.

One big difference is upload speed. For some users going from 10 Mbps upload to 50 Mbps is a real bonus for local/national traffic.

If your requirements are mostly international downloads then the slower plan may be your answer but if local/national is important the faster plan should show useful gains.

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#864836 24-Jul-2013 09:05

If you start with 30 you could always upgrade later if it looked beneficial. I'm on 30 and wouldn't see any personal benefit in going to 100 but, hey, the choice is there.

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#864839 24-Jul-2013 09:10

While download speeds are limited to what the website can provide, if you have multiple users in the home/business you can expect them to be less affected by the other users as the overall speed available on the connection is much higher

merknz

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#865403 24-Jul-2013 22:23

I don't run any services and I'm leaning towards advanced user, to be honest I'm happy with the speeds I get generally .. just wanted to see if there was more ... (speed junkie in training)

Thanks everyone :-)