SamKnows Comparison of 2Degrees and 1.1.1.1 DNS

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#243510 15-Dec-2018 11:25

I thought I'd try Cloudflares 1.1.1.1 for my home DNS as they claim it would "speed up your internet".

You can see the two days of 1.1.1.1 on the SamKnows report. I'll stick with 2Degrees:

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#2145737 15-Dec-2018 12:22

In 99% of cases there will never be any performance gains using non RSP DNS servers over your RSPs own DNS servers.

There are various reasons why people may want to use 3rd party DNS servers - but improving DNS lookup performance is not one of them.

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#2145738 15-Dec-2018 12:31

This may be case in the USA but in NZ, stick to your ISP...

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#2145741 15-Dec-2018 12:40

I use Cloudflare DNS over HTTPS (DOH) with a DNS server running on a Raspberry Pi. I know this isn't the fastest, but offers privacy. General DNS queries are blocked by an outbound firewall. Much like yours, I see spikes in DNS:

I don't think anyone would notice a difference - betwen 2degrees, quad9 and Cloudflare the query response time is very similar.

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#2145900 15-Dec-2018 18:55

1.1.1.1: 27 ms

9.9.9.9: 17 ms

202.37.101.1: 13 ms

Hardly worth worrying about.

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#2146106 16-Dec-2018 13:28

If speed is important to you, move DNS resolution (with caching) as close as possible. I use unbound locally and bypass the ISP resolver. If some form of privacy is of higher concern then one of the anonymousing resolvers may be suitable (cloudflare et. al.). Running local DNS resolvers allows QNAME minimisation (RFC7816) to be used which can help improve privacy. I use DNSBench to measure the performace.

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#2146110 16-Dec-2018 13:47

You've pretty much just described probably 95% + of users out there.

Pretty much every router these days runs DNSmasq (or something similar) so unless people intentionally change their DHCP settings to hand out a RSP or 3rd party DNS then they're going to be running their own DNS cache locally.

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#2146151 16-Dec-2018 15:47

Yes, 95%+ will be used a single appliance with DNSMasq or similar, which will discover the upstream resolver via ppp/dhcp. The 99% of the masses won't be reading geekzone and certainly won't be thinking about DNS forwarding and/or resolution.

Depending on your equipment/setup it is possible to move from DNS forwarding (e.g. DNSMasq) to local DNS resolution. This may provider better results, but my key point is to use something (like DNSBench) to measure the results.