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NZCrusader

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Topic # 115633 2-Apr-2013 12:42

Hey all.

Buying a new house and will be taking possession of it in the next month or two.

Planning to get SS AYCE + phone for $111.

What I would like to do:
-Install master splitter & split the ADSL / VDSL off to the garage.
-Install new CAT6 wiring + RG6 coax from the garage to each room to distribute Freeview / SKY & Internet.

I would like to know if anyone else has done something similar, and if so, was it a DIY job or was it paid for?

Any recommendations on DIY jobs?
Can the cables be run from the roof down the walls? (Unsure if the foundations have enough room for someone to install cables through the floor)

If used installers, any recommendations? (quality / price)

Thanks in advance.

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wazzab

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Reply # 790629 2-Apr-2013 13:12

I did similar a few years back, but all walls were exposed so the job was quite simple. Used a SigNet Home Networking cabinet and there accessories. Put a Master filter in and have Phone and ADSL patched. Put in 2 Cat6 and RG6 into all room, and a few more around the lounge. Ended up with 20 x Cat6 around the place, and to be honest, I've only used a few of them :-) phone and adsl. Everything else has gone wireless, although I do have a couple of TVs and the Playstation patched in also. Freeview and modulated SKY signal distributed to all RG6 ports and this is nice when moving TVs around the house.

http://www.sigtech.co.nz/webapps/i/72000/107489/183686
http://www.sigtech.co.nz/uploads/72000/files/SIGNET_ST2000,_2500___2600_Series_Installation_Guide_with_Wiring_Diagrams.pdf

nickb800

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Reply # 790681 2-Apr-2013 13:52

Firstly, what stage of construction is the house at? - if the wall linings have been put up then things get pretty difficult.

It's pretty easy as a DIY job if you are handy, took me 1/2 day to run the cables, waited a few weeks for the builders to put up the walls and get them painted, then spent another day wiring the outlets and the patch panel for our 3 bedroom single story house. The cables ran up the walls and through the ceiling space to a patch panel in the garage, much easier than crawling around under the house. With 20 Cat5e ports around the house and 6 RG6 outlets all feeding back into the patch panel, it came to just under $1000 for materials

Search geekzone for 'structured cabling', especially blogs, as there is a wealth of information on it.

Perhaps have a read and come back to us with what you're thinking - how many outlets and what rooms - and we can give you some pointers to refine your plan

NZCrusader

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Reply # 790772 2-Apr-2013 15:35

House is fully constructed already.

Was thinking of trying DIY (I know how to use the punch tools etc) just have never had to install inside walls etc).

My first plan of attack is trying to cable under the house, and up through the walls.
Then install the cabinet & the patch panel + home distribution unit.

I am looking at installing:
1x 3 port face plate per room. (Kitchen, lounge, 3 bedrooms = 5 total)
2x Cat6 cables / ports per room.
1x RG6 cable per room.
2x 8 port patch panel
1x 24 port gigabit switch (I have a good L3+ switch I grabbed free one time :) )

Also for the Freeview & SKY distribution, will this product distribute both out all RG6 ports ?
http://www.cdynamics.co.nz/index.html?do=viewproduct&p=TVR100&code=HWS-DDA28

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nickb800

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Reply # 790781 2-Apr-2013 15:51

Yep, that distribution amp will do what you want, only this is that you might need a diplexer to 'un-combine' the satellite & terrestrial at each end.

Looks like a pretty good plan.
- Why 8-port patch panels? a single 24port should be cheaper and you can use the spare ports for routing the telephone circuits.
- Most of the hassle and cost is in the wall plates and routing cables - so its worth over-speccing things. I found that it only cost ~$30 (depending on the length of cable needed) extra in materials and a little extra time for an additional network jack, so I put 4 network outlets in busy areas - lounge, dinning, office

Will be a little bit harder to retrofit but no big deal. Will be a little bit finicky and you will have a bad time if you dont have a helper in the house to guide you/grab the cable when you feed it up from underneath the house.

Assuming that your TV/data outlets will be next to a power outlet, you will want to mount them on the opposite side of the stud that the power outlet is on, so once you have located the stud relative to the power outlet, then drill a hole in the GIB and use a saber saw or knife to cut out a hole big enough for a flush box.
The tricky bit will be drilling a hole through the floor, as you won't have enough room to drill the hole from above, but you won't know where to drill from underneath. Might be worth pulling up the carpet, drilling a small hole through the floor from the above 50mm in front of the planned wall outlet, then drilling a 20-30mm diameter hole from underneath, 100mm towards the wall from the pilot hole, so that it should be in the middle of the bottom stud. Or if your power outlets are wired from underneath then you can use the routing of power cables as a guide

wazzab

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Reply # 790784 2-Apr-2013 15:56

I agree with above. Very tricky to get the correct spot when coming up through the bottom plate, if you have no guide. Other side of the power point, as pointed out would be your best option, and just hope for the best that you can find your cable as someone is poking it up from the bottom. If you find insulation in there it will be even harder.

wongtop

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Reply # 790786 2-Apr-2013 15:57

I would be tempted to go for more than 3 data outlets in the lounge. These days TV, bluray, PS3, Xbox, Freeview box, etc all have ethernet ports and want to be connected to the internet (though more and more are getting wireless too)

NZCrusader

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Reply # 790809 2-Apr-2013 16:09

nickb800: Yep, that distribution amp will do what you want, only this is that you might need a diplexer to 'un-combine' the satellite & terrestrial at each end.

Was not aware that I would need a diplexer.

Learn something everyday :D

Will also take a closer look at http://www.sigtech.co.nz/

Might try to get a better idea of equipment.

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Reply # 790812 2-Apr-2013 16:12

Just thought I would add this in here:

http://www.sigtech.co.nz/uploads/72000/files/SIGNET_ST23DDM8__Aug__12_.pdf

Looks really good.

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