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#277303 7-Oct-2020 05:38
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Orcon has announced an exclusive telecommunications provider agreement with Google, supplying all new naked fibre subscribers with the brand-new Google Nest Wifi Router, Google’s best Wi-Fi device yet.

Orcon Chief Executive Taryn Hamilton says the Google Nest Wifi router is a game changer. “The new Google Nest Wifi router delivers a super powerful signal throughout your home and it’s also an expandible system – you can add additional Wi-Fi satellites, to suit the size of any home.”

Hamilton notes that with COVID-19, more people than ever are working from home, which means domestic internet connections are depended upon for work. A poor Wi-Fi signal shouldn’t be among the challenges of working from home – but for many, the one quiet place in the house might also be the same location which lacks a decent signal.

“While thousands of Orcon customers using the original Google Wifi mesh router have seen a massive improvement in their Wi-Fi, the latest Nest Wifi is an upgrade that’s better in every way. We are thrilled to be able to partner with Google to provide our customers with this great new technology.”

“Most Kiwi houses weren’t built with the internet in mind, much less wireless connectivity,” he says. “As a result, getting ‘house-wide’ signal has been a challenge, with many customers feeling like their Fibre internet isn’t as fast as it is supposed to be when it isn’t the fibre at fault, but the capability of their Wi-Fi.” Hamilton says.

Nest Wifi is designed to eliminate the problem. Customers start with a single Nest Wifi Router, which will cover the vast majority of Kiwi homes (up to 200 sqm), but customers can then add up to five satellite units to ensure a strong signal no matter how big or rambling the home.

Setup is simple, taking little more than plugging it in, then downloading and opening the Google Home app which guides users through the process in minutes. Once set up, the network is managed from the Home app alongside other supported smart devices.

The app makes it easy to share a Wi-Fi password with guests, prioritise devices (like when on a video call), test network speed, manage kids’ devices, set up a guest network or change passwords.

The satellite units incorporate Wi-Fi MESH technology, so as devices move around, they connect to the closest Wi-Fi access point. Multiple satellite units improve overall Wi-Fi performance by increasing speed to each device, while lowering contention (fewer devices on each unit and a shorter distance to each access point).

Google Nest Wifi eliminates another growing problem for domestic internet users. With increasing ‘Internet of Things’ devices connected to the Wi-Fi, contention can degrade the quality of the signal and throughput. “Most homes have ten or more concurrent devices on the Wi-Fi. That’s no problem for Google’s Nest Wifi Router, which is capable of handling up to 100 connected devices while streaming multiple 4k videos at the same time,” Hamilton points out.

With additional Google Nest products available in New Zealand, including smart speakers and the ever-popular Chromecast device, the Nest Wifi Router provides an ideal start point for smarter homes – without connectivity hassles.

“Orcon customers are always looking for the best, the fastest, and the highest performing technology. Google’s Nest Wifi ticks all the boxes. Customer Satisfaction scores of Orcon customers using Google Wifi are markedly higher than those without a mesh solution. With the latest and greatest Google Mesh solution in Nest Wifi, we expect even higher satisfaction scores,” Hamilton concludes.

From late October, Orcon will provide new naked fibre customers with a Google Nest Wifi router at no additional cost. Additional satellites are available for $5 / month each.





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  #2580411 7-Oct-2020 05:43
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Does it do VLAN tagging now?

 

 










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  #2580412 7-Oct-2020 05:46
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Yes, it does now.

Remember, this is the Google Nest Wifi.




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  #2580413 7-Oct-2020 05:52
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I can't keep up with the nest rebranding :P

 

 










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  #2580581 7-Oct-2020 11:50
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Is this like their $5month extra ones but free so you have to return at the end of the 12 months or is it a free extra gift?

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  #2580593 7-Oct-2020 11:59
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Good question - checking this.





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  #2580610 7-Oct-2020 12:54
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4x4 wifi is certainly the path RSP's seem to all be headed now.

 

the 2x2 on mesh nodes is a tad disappointing, hopefully google will replace those soon.. having worked with spark's mesh nodes, the 4x4 for backhaul is pretty damn solid.

 

 

 

I'd be interested to know if Orcon have customized the default of going to google dns to their own or not.





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  #2580614 7-Oct-2020 13:08
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Just confirmed you have to return the Google Nest Wifi if you are no longer a customer.





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  #2580654 7-Oct-2020 14:05
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I'm assuming they are referring to this new model

 

Appears to retail for US $99 but Harvey Normal appear to be advertising it for NZD $299. Nice margin.





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  #2580659 7-Oct-2020 14:09
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@Openmedia Google Wifi is not the same as Google Nest Wifi.





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  #2580705 7-Oct-2020 15:26
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Ah.. So are we looking at this unit?

 





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  #2580707 7-Oct-2020 15:29
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Correct.





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  #2581329 8-Oct-2020 13:57
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This router is tiny!

 





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  #2581336 8-Oct-2020 14:16
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Hi, just for those who are not totally familiar with the google WiFi gear, the original Google WiFi had a single hardware item, each could act as a router or a point, each has two lan ports, on the router one is WAN the other lan. When you first setup Google WiFi you select one as the router, and all others as "Points" or L2 access points, once a device becomes a Point the two ethernet ports become bridged along with the wireless. Being a mesh system it uses the 802.11s standard, if you use wired backhaul between the router and points then the router will use spanning tree to stop forwarding via the wireless mesh to other points and prefer to use the wired backhaul. So if you are using managed switches either turn off spanning tree or at least configure the switches priority to ensure the Google WiFi router is elected as the root bridge.

 

Google WiFi nest has two hardware devices, a router and a point, the former like the original Google WiFi has two ports, a WAN and a LAN. The Google nest "Point" does not have any wired port, therefore can only use wireless mesh to gain a uplink. However you can create a Google WiFi network using multiple Google Nest "Routers" with the slaves as AP's ie Points in the same way the original Google WiFi worked and as such a Google Nest Router operated as Point will bridge both ethernet ports with the wireless and operate just like an original Google WiFi setup as mentioned above, and lets you use wired backhaul. You can mix and match original and nest models in a single network.

 

Have just sorted out a family friend who was recommended Google WiFi as a solution, and then found it does not work when you have a concrete slab over steel sheet ribbed tray building, so I had to set it up with wired backhaul and discovered the above.

 

As for how it works, it seems to work well, would I recommend it, probably not, in this instance being the original Google WiFi I had to use a managed switch to get around the lack of ability to deal with tagged traffic on the WAN, clearly the newer nest gets around that issue.

 

Feel free to ask any questions re the setup.

 

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  #2581337 8-Oct-2020 14:16
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freitasm:

 

This router is tiny!

 

 

Love new toys! Interesting to see your feedback on its performance

 

 





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  #2586422 16-Oct-2020 19:45
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I do wonder if you had a gigabit connection (950/450) what the ‘real world’ speeds you could achieve?




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