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#305944 15-Jun-2023 15:39
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I'm thinking about switching my broadband to 2degrees.

 

I currently use DNS4ME. Would this work with 2degrees, or would I need to buy a static IP address to get it to work?


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  #3090378 15-Jun-2023 15:42
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You would need a public IP, not CG-NAT.




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  #3090385 15-Jun-2023 15:58
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Currently, 2degrees charges $10/month for a static IP (including both IPv4 and IPv6).





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  #3090387 15-Jun-2023 16:02
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OK, thanks for the replies, I just need to factor the extra $10 per month into my decision!




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  #3090396 15-Jun-2023 17:09
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I use dns4me on 2degrees and don’t have a static IP, works perfectly. 





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  #3090397 15-Jun-2023 17:12
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Rushmere:

 

OK, thanks for the replies, I just need to factor the extra $10 per month into my decision!

 

 

Or change ISP


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  #3090398 15-Jun-2023 17:14
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corksta:

 

I use dns4me on 2degrees and don’t have a static IP, works perfectly. 

 

 

 

 

Oh, that’s interesting! I thought they had migrated everyone to CGNAT now? Have you been with them for a long time so it’s possible you haven’t been migrated?

 

I guess I can move to 2degrees and try it first, then request a static IP only if it doesn’t work for me.


 
 
 

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  #3090400 15-Jun-2023 17:21
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I use dns4me on 2degrees and also don’t have a static IP. It works perfectly, but the only thing is your IP can occasionally change which you have to keep an eye on, but is not a problem.





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  #3090402 15-Jun-2023 17:32
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Rushmere:

 

corksta:

 

I use dns4me on 2degrees and don’t have a static IP, works perfectly. 

 

 

 

 

Oh, that’s interesting! I thought they had migrated everyone to CGNAT now? Have you been with them for a long time so it’s possible you haven’t been migrated?

 

I guess I can move to 2degrees and try it first, then request a static IP only if it doesn’t work for me.

 

 


It’s definitely CG-NAT. Everyone is on that unless you have a static IP. We have several services unblocked and everything works perfectly. Try it first without paying for the static IP. 





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  #3090489 15-Jun-2023 21:53
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Also other providers (eg, Skinny) have some very good deals and also have rather sticky IP addresses but also don’t have CG-NAT.

The downside with services like dns4me and being on CG-NAT is there is always a chance another user is also using that service on the IP you share. This isn’t normally a problem to people who don’t use these services but if you get a conflict then things can get a little annoying then suddenly purchasing a static IP adds unnecessary cost and may make it more expensive than other providers who don’t use CG-NAT.




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  #3090587 16-Jun-2023 07:54
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michaelmurfy: Also other providers (eg, Skinny) have some very good deals and also have rather sticky IP addresses but also don’t have CG-NAT.

The downside with services like dns4me and being on CG-NAT is there is always a chance another user is also using that service on the IP you share. This isn’t normally a problem to people who don’t use these services but if you get a conflict then things can get a little annoying then suddenly purchasing a static IP adds unnecessary cost and may make it more expensive than other providers who don’t use CG-NAT.

 

 

 

I'm already with Skinny, but they've annoyed me by selling my phone number and email address to Google, Facebook and Trade Me, so I'm looking for an alternative. I don't mind paying more for a supplier that has a moral compass (if such a thing exists).


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  #3090590 16-Jun-2023 08:29
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In that case you’re better to stay with a small provider (like Quic for example if you don’t mind self managed). Flicking through the 2degrees privacy policy it does give them potential grounds to provide information to advertisers and I wouldn’t put it past them to do the same. Google knows everything about you anyway especially if you use an Android phone or any Google products or services, I wouldn’t stress about it too much.




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  #3090607 16-Jun-2023 08:59
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michaelmurfy: In that case you’re better to stay with a small provider (like Quic for example if you don’t mind self managed). Flicking through the 2degrees privacy policy it does give them potential grounds to provide information to advertisers and I wouldn’t put it past them to do the same. Google knows everything about you anyway especially if you use an Android phone or any Google products or services, I wouldn’t stress about it too much.

 

Thanks, I'll take a look at Quic, I wasn't aware of them - and I do my best to avoid Android and Google products ;-)


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  #3090611 16-Jun-2023 09:13
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I use dns4me with Voyager and have been very happy with it all.  There was a one off charge for static IP, then free from then.  When I shifted to Voyager they were pretty price competitive at $79/month (300/100), but that subsequently went up to $89.  I'm not sure where that leaves them now, cost wise relative to other options, as I haven't reached the threshold to look around again.  


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  #3090621 16-Jun-2023 09:17
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+1 Voyager. One off fee for static IP, great service.

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  #3090637 16-Jun-2023 10:04
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IMHO Voyager have gone up in price and service has decreased I've personally found plus many of my friends have switched away from them too. It appears that Voyager are going more for the "White Label" reseller service market like Devoli did. Quic are low price, one off fee for a Static IP, have good performance and have a very good self management tools (you can see your ONT and connection status from their control panel) and have a Geekzone presence along with a private forum for customers to request features and test out new things.

 

You don't need a static IP for dns4me however - if you have a public IP (which quic do have) you'll be fine but you just need to keep your IP in sync.

 

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