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#306220 5-Jul-2023 11:10
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Received an email this morning saying my service was switched over to 2Degrees. MR are leaving the NZ Market. FAQ Linked below.

 

 

 

https://myrepublic.net/nz/faq/ 


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  #3100128 5-Jul-2023 11:17
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This is going to cause problems: "Note that Mobile is staying put at MyRepublic – so you can still buy, change or add mobile as you can today. This means your current plan pricing, speed, inclusions and any discounts you may already have will be staying the same."





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  #3100130 5-Jul-2023 11:26
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As MyRepublic (former) Employee #5, this is the best thing they could have done.  I wonder what will happen to the employees.  2 Degrees may take some, but certainly not all.

 

They lasted longer than I predicted.


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  #3100131 5-Jul-2023 11:26
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Isn't 2D merging the Orcon/Slingshot brands. So you will have Spark, One NZ and 2D as the main players now.

 

I wonder what the percentage of the market share between these three ISP's are?

 

 





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  #3100142 5-Jul-2023 11:48
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The email they sent makes it all sound rather painless (not having Mobile with them seems to help). Hope that turns out to be true. Oh well, such is life.





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  #3100145 5-Jul-2023 11:53
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Delorean:

 

Isn't 2D merging the Orcon/Slingshot brands. So you will have Spark, One NZ and 2D as the main players now.

 

I wonder what the percentage of the market share between these three ISP's are?

 

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/996153/estimated-market-share-broadband-providers-by-connections-new-zealand/

 

2021 is the most recent numbers, since then, Vocus is "out", and 2D has picked up some small ISPs, like MR, which was in the "other".

 

https://www.reseller.co.nz/article/698654/merger-vocus-complete-2degrees-targets-5g-wireless-broadband/

 

Up to 20% a year ago.

 

So today, combining those two links, and assuming no net migration between providers, today we are at 40/20/20/20.  40% Spark, 20% OneNZ, 20% 2D, and 20% Other.  I don't think the number of MR subscribers will boost 2D to official second place, but I don't know what other acquisitions, if any, they have been making in the background.

 

Being owned by Macquarie has apparently unlocked funding for acquisitions.  Surprised they haven't acquired a video streaming platform yet.  That's what we really need, another video streaming platform.


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  #3100161 5-Jul-2023 12:13
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Gifs of fish infinitely eating other fish comes to mind.

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  #3101677 9-Jul-2023 14:22
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Myrepublic users untagged VLAN10 and 2G uses Tagged Vlan10 - What a nightmare for things like router replacement





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  #3101678 9-Jul-2023 14:25
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Myepublic dead in Aus too since end of last year.


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  #3101682 9-Jul-2023 14:44
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“ Halloween is almost here and Kiwi fibre internet provider, MyRepublic, has created the world's first internet ready coffin.

The MyRepublic Coffin comes fully kitted with a PS4, HDTV, surround sound system and a MyRepublic high-speed router which enables a fast connection.

Vaughan Baker, managing director for MyRepublic, says the coffin illustrates the lengths MyRepublic will go to ensuring New Zealanders receive internet without limits”

https://futurefive.co.nz/story/message-beyond-grave-worlds-first-coffin-wifi

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  #3101687 9-Jul-2023 15:19
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nztim:

 

Myrepublic users untagged VLAN10 and 2G uses Tagged Vlan10 - What a nightmare for things like router replacement

 

 

 

 

What is the purpose of the VLAN tag in broadband services?


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  #3101703 9-Jul-2023 15:50
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To stop end users plugging their computers directly into the ONT and getting pure, unprotected internet pumped straight into their device.





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  #3101705 9-Jul-2023 16:00
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angski:

 

What is the purpose of the VLAN tag in broadband services?

 

 

The ability to separate and prioritise multiple services (like voice, IPTV, Internet access...) over a single ONT port or "user network interface" especially useful in a equivalence/wholesale environment.

 

With the price rises from Chorus and other LFCs along with changes to their bandwidth contracts with Vocus (now 2degrees) they probably concluded it's a suitable time to exit the fixed line broadband market. Unless they were to negotiate new long term bandwidth contracts they would lose their point of difference and would come closer to just be reselling 2degrees connections (I think there have been  a couple of users who have commented on evening degradations since about April).


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  #3101886 10-Jul-2023 10:36
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angski:

 

nztim:

 

Myrepublic users untagged VLAN10 and 2G uses Tagged Vlan10 - What a nightmare for things like router replacement

 

 

 

 

What is the purpose of the VLAN tag in broadband services?

 

 

 

 

Unpopular opinion here:

 

 

 

PPPoE and VLAN10 provide no useful user function beyond adding encapsulation overheads.

 

 

 

VLAN10 is purely a holdover from the old-DSL days.  Also, any connection supporting QoS will have a VLAN tag

 

PPPoE was an early dial-up AAA protocol, because RADIUS didn't/doesn't require/monitor logoff well (or at all).  So anyone who worked for a provider in the '90s will swear by PPPoE.  PPPoE did monitor logoff better, which is why carriers used it for dial-up, so they could bill by the second or minute.  And those who spent thousands of hours troubleshooting back in the day much prefer it because it's what they are used to.  And DHCP has good support for troubleshooting in the protocol, but the carriers don't troubleshoot it well, so the complaint that "PPPoE is more supportable" is both right and wrong.  PPPoE and DHCP are just as supportable, but DHCP is not as well supported by NZ carriers (by choice, not because it's actually harder).  PPPoE is still operationally "better" for metered accounts.  And if you have to have a PPPoE infrastructure, the carriers default to forcing that on everyone.  Someone like MR, who had no VDSL (when launched) and no metered connections (then or now, as far as I know), should default to the simpler and easier option of not using either.

 

 

 

PPPoE and VLAN10 being a waste is unpopular here because many of the most vocal members are ex or current ISP workers who have an operational preference, and don't do a good job of ignoring their provider preference to give a user preference.


  #3102129 10-Jul-2023 13:34
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Whinery:

 

PPPoE and VLAN10 being a waste is unpopular here because many of the most vocal members are ex or current ISP workers who have an operational preference, and don't do a good job of ignoring their provider preference to give a user preference.

 

 

This. The exact feeling I had while setting up multiple business broadband connections lately with regards to PPPoE. A lot to improve for some ISP, gotta do something with those Jira instances!

 

Which makes me wonder why would a new ISP like Quic use it? I mean, none of their plans are metered and they sell themselves as the "from geeks to geeks" kinda market. And yes I know they are a re-branded something-other but from a market point of view they are new.

 

Is not just a few of them though, it's most:

 

 

source: https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49&topicid=174969


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  #3102261 10-Jul-2023 15:51
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Here is my 2c for consumer only RSPs that only offer naked broadband or voice over the ONT there is merit in no VLAN tag for simplicity.

But Spark/Vodafone/2degrees have corporate clients with things like cloud phone systems that need to be able to tag priority traffic so voice calls don't drop when the internet gets smashed

As for Quic they are a subsidiary of Vetta Online which is a corporate RSP

Interestingly Sparks consumer only subsidiaries Bigpipe and Skinny have no VLAN10 tagging.

PPPoE arguments are different - If you make network changes at the backend PPPoE comes back faster.




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