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AdamWarner

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#307178 26-Sep-2023 14:59
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Dear 2degrees and forum members,

 

(My customer number is 889915. No other personal details are posted here)

 

For months we've been having intermittent problems where the Fritz!Fon is unable to dial out. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. You think everything's fine then you go to use the phone and find you can't dial out. Throughout this we've been able to receive calls via the Fritz!Fon, but not necessarily be able to call anyone back. Fortunately old wired telephones connected to the Fritz!Box still work reliably.

 

On 11 August 2023 I contacted 2degrees by email to try and resolve this. Received a reply on 21 August that help to resolve the issue might involve factory resets of the Fritz!Box and Fritz!Fon. I wasn't prepared to do a factory reset of the Fritz!Box until yesterday. With planning I have been able to do a factory reset with no loading of a single backup (".export") setting. This is a pristine factory reset.

 

These are the changes I made to the Fritz!Box since the factory reset:

 

     

  1. Assigned a Fritz!Box password to the web interface.
  2. Set up DECT for the Fritz!Fon (also reset/registered) where I chose to accept calls for the following number only: (the correct phone number as listed by the Fritz!Box)
  3. Set SSIDs and passwords for the wireless networks (including guest).
  4. Loaded the XML address book back into the Fritz!Box for the Fritz!Fon.

 

For the first six hours the Fritz!Fon could not dial out. There were three high tones. A pause. A repeat of the three high tones. Then a series of low tones. The Fritz!Fon returns the error message "No channel available". This is a representative log message:

 

25.09.23 21:14:54 Internet telephony with 0800022022 via connect2.plus.snap.net.nz failed. Cause: (503)

 

Then six hours after the factory reset the phone mysteriously started working:

 

25.09.23 23:27 2degrees Internet (business) = 0800022022 Mobile handset 1

 

And was working this morning:

 

26.09.23 07:47  2degrees Internet (business)    Mobile handset 1

 

Finally thinking the issue is resolved we check the phone this afternoon. Cannot call out from the FRITZ!Fon C5:

 

26.09.23 13:13:31 Internet telephony with 0800022022 via connect2.plus.snap.net.nz failed. Cause: (503)

 

26.09.23 13:14:55 Internet telephony with 0800022022 via connect2.plus.snap.net.nz failed. Cause: (503)

 

I have essentially eliminated any possibility that the fault is due to customer misconfiguration of the network. Perhaps the ageing 7490 has an intermittent hardware fault. But most likely this fault is off-premises.

 

2degrees has my full permission to do anything remotely to try to fix this issue without further communication being required. I do not believe this can be solved by phoning support and going though a checklist of things to try to get the phone working. It is 2degrees job to ensure the phone works after factory resets of both the Fritz!Box and Fritz!Fon (and after re-registering the Fon with the Box). I suspect someone at 2Degrees knows what error 503 is and can fix the "No channel available" routing issue.

 

While Geekzone members are great at brainstorming I don't think I should be making any changes to the Fritz!Box settings at this stage. It's factory reset and it can be factory reset at any time with very little disruption.


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  #3134276 26-Sep-2023 20:14
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Do you have the same issues if you enable the number on a mobile or desktop using one of the popular voip apps?



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  #3134335 26-Sep-2023 20:53
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That's a good testing suggestion that shouldn't require modifying any Fritz!Box settings.

 

Any VOIP app you'd recommend for an Android phone? Thank you!


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  #3134336 26-Sep-2023 20:56
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I have used zoiper on iPhone and windows for testing. It’s pretty good and should be on android too.



Edit: I have a fritzbox too and use it for voip. You want to check your internet connection settings and make sure the upload and download is set correctly.



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  #3134337 26-Sep-2023 21:37
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I have just checked the upload and download Internet connection settings (unmodified from the factory reset) and they are fine:

 

 

 

Data Throughput

 

Enter the speed of your line. These values are required to secure the prioritization of the network devices.

 

Downstream 1000 Mbit/s

 

Upstream 1000 Mbit/s

 

 

 

Now, why does ZoiPer require me to set up an account with a provider before I can use the app? I thought the idea was to use an Android device to emulate a DECT phone. This shouldn't require an external account. The account choices I'm given for New Zealand are: Airtime Sharing, VoIPLine Telecom NZ, VND PBX or Procall.

 

Should I continue? I've already clicked agree to them syphoning up my data including my "email address." Which is the best NZ provider?


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  #3134338 26-Sep-2023 21:50
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AdamWarner:

 

I have just checked the upload and download Internet connection settings (unmodified from the factory reset) and they are fine:

 

 

 

Data Throughput

 

Enter the speed of your line. These values are required to secure the prioritization of the network devices.

 

Downstream 1000 Mbit/s

 

Upstream 1000 Mbit/s

 

 

 

Now, why does ZoiPer require me to set up an account with a provider before I can use the app? I thought the idea was to use an Android device to emulate a DECT phone. This shouldn't require an external account. The account choices I'm given for New Zealand are: Airtime Sharing, VoIPLine Telecom NZ, VND PBX or Procall.

 

Should I continue? I've already clicked agree to them syphoning up my data including my "email address." Which is the best NZ provider?

 

 

Its been a while since I used Zoiper. Its odd, because there is a setting there somewhere to enter your settings manually. Maybe its changed now. Does your ISP not supply a soft phone? Maybe see what they recoomend. 

 

 

 

 


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  #3135345 27-Sep-2023 00:04
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Thanks for your help. I feel dirty after clicking yes to that data agreement. Knowing the Android permission system they didn't just get the email address of the Google Account installing the App. They likely got all of the accounts on the phone. Anyway the app's uninstalled now.

 

It turns out a better choice is the official FRITZ!App Fon app:

 

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.avm.android.fritzapp

 

Requires Android 9 or above. I was able to install it on a different but compatible device.

 

I tried using it to call 2degrees and my cellular phone. In both cases the calls failed. FRITZ!Box 7490 telephony event log shows both calls "via connect2.plus.snap.net.nz failed. Cause: (503)"

 

So we have definitely ruled out the FRITZ!Fon C5 as faulty phone hardware as we bypassed it with an Android phone substitute and the Android phone plus app had the same problem calling out.


 
 
 
 

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  #3135348 27-Sep-2023 00:36
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You should try it on a different network completely just to rule that out too.

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  #3137722 2-Oct-2023 13:11
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Thanks for the detailed rundown of troubleshooting you've done, its super helpful!

I've just pushed a voice profile change to your Fritzbox, interested to know if this has resolved the issue.


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  #3137752 2-Oct-2023 13:51
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Hi aspired,

 

The FRITZ!Fon C5 is working correctly. I hope this means the voice profile change has permanently resolved the issue.

 

Will this profile change continue to be applied if the FRTIZ!Box is rebooted or factory reset?

 

Thank you for your work in resolving this issue!

 

Adam


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  #3137845 2-Oct-2023 16:04
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Great to hear. It is permanent, will survive a reboot and now applied by default after a factory reset/re-provisioning of voice services.

 


 

Cheers

 


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