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getontoit99

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#309269 3-Oct-2023 22:25
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Hi All. I'm helping a friend who is experiencing strange issues with his broadband at home. He's been back and forth with the 2degrees helpdesk without success.

 

Main points

 

2degrees fibre broadband with a 2degrees-supplied Netgear ORBI RBR350, since 17 July. Previously, fibre broadband was from Spark for 5 years.

 

All was OK for a month after going live with 2degrees, then from about the 3rd week of August, several issues arose:

 

1. His wireless-connected laptop could no longer access westpac.co.nz. Connections would time out.

 

2. Facebook videos accessed from a wireless-connected phone or laptop were unplayable due to buffering. 

 

3. The DisneyPlus and TVNZ+ app's on his wireless-connected Samsung TV would connect, but would no longer reliably stream video. Either major buffering occurred, or both app's would fail after about 2 minutes with errors. 

 

But... The YouTube and Netflix app's on the TV have always worked correctly and still do.

 

Today

 

1. Speedtest
An initial test from my phone when connected to his wireless network and 5 metres from the Orbi: 
32.4Mbps D/L, 24.6Mbps U/L. Second and subsequent tests over the next 5 minutes: 225Mbps D/L, 97Mbps U/L.  

 

2. Transferring the TV to a LAN port on the ORBI made no difference to the DisneyPlus and TVNZ+ issues.

 

3. Connecting the TV to my phone's wireless hostspot, the DisneyPlus and TVNZ+ app's worked correctly.

 

4. The DisneyPlus and TVNZ+ app's installed on his phone worked correctly when the phone was using his (ORBI) wireless network (mobile data disabled).

 

5. With my laptop connected to a LAN port on the ORBI, Internet connectivity would drop out for a second or two, every 1-2 minutes. (Shown by the Windows 10 globe coming and going. This continued even after the LAN cable was replaced).

 

6. Westpac.co.nz was accessible and worked correctly from my LAN-connected laptop. The DisneyPlus and TVNZ+ websites were also accessible and usable.

 

Router change
The ORBI router was replaced with a Spark Smart Modem (Arcadyn), but the issues listed above (Westpac from his laptop, DisneyPlus and TVNZ+ app's on the TV, etc) remained. However, the Windows 10 globe no longer appeared on my laptop.

 

Conclusion
It's hard to not conclude that a subtle and specific fault was introduced in the third week of August, which is still present, to cause the issues described above. E.g., two TV app's stopped working, the other two still work.

 

From other posts with weird stuff happening, replacing the ONT seems to be a good next step. 

 

Suggestions, please folks! 

 

And, could someone from 2degrees put their hand up:-) (Multiple fault calls were raised. The account number is available)

 

All input will be gratefully received. If further information is needed, please ask.

 

Thanks,

 

Scott

 

 


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  #3138538 4-Oct-2023 05:25
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Similar to what I was getting, even after being given new static IP etc no change....  I'm changing to another ISP end of this week, 2D just don't seem to want to acknowledge that their migration process has somehow killed a lot of users connectivity. 

 

Yet soon as I connect to 4G, all the problems vanished. 

 

ONT replacement seems extreme to me - surely 2D changes can't have killed ONTs pretty sure Chorus would have kicked up hell of a stink ;)

 

 





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  #3138571 4-Oct-2023 07:29
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Don't think it will be the ONT - have 2degrees suggested this as a fix? That's a bit of a stretch.


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  #3138584 4-Oct-2023 08:16
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Seems to be exactly the same issue as this thread https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=81&topicid=306886

 

Issues commenced on 25 August. Solution in that thread is noted as replacement Orbi router, however this may be coincidental with another background network change.




getontoit99

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  #3142711 4-Oct-2023 12:49
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Thanks @xpd, @RunningMan and @quickymart

 

I agree about the ONT being an unlikely cause but threw it out there anyway.

 

Unless we can engage someone from 2degrees who is a position to resolve the issue, I'll be advising my friend to follow Gavin to another ISP.

 

 


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  #3142715 4-Oct-2023 12:53
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  #3142716 4-Oct-2023 12:54
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Perhaps ping @DimitryD who had the original issue in the other thread. May be able to put you in contact with right 2degrees people.


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  #3143427 6-Oct-2023 09:23
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Sorry for the delay in responding, its been a sick week! Please PM me your friend's account details and I will get the team to look into this today for you


getontoit99:

 

Hi All. I'm helping a friend who is experiencing strange issues with his broadband at home. He's been back and forth with the 2degrees helpdesk without success.

 

Main points

 

2degrees fibre broadband with a 2degrees-supplied Netgear ORBI RBR350, since 17 July. Previously, fibre broadband was from Spark for 5 years.

 

All was OK for a month after going live with 2degrees, then from about the 3rd week of August, several issues arose:

 

1. His wireless-connected laptop could no longer access westpac.co.nz. Connections would time out.

 

2. Facebook videos accessed from a wireless-connected phone or laptop were unplayable due to buffering. 

 

3. The DisneyPlus and TVNZ+ app's on his wireless-connected Samsung TV would connect, but would no longer reliably stream video. Either major buffering occurred, or both app's would fail after about 2 minutes with errors. 

 

But... The YouTube and Netflix app's on the TV have always worked correctly and still do.

 

Today

 

1. Speedtest
An initial test from my phone when connected to his wireless network and 5 metres from the Orbi: 
32.4Mbps D/L, 24.6Mbps U/L. Second and subsequent tests over the next 5 minutes: 225Mbps D/L, 97Mbps U/L.  

 

2. Transferring the TV to a LAN port on the ORBI made no difference to the DisneyPlus and TVNZ+ issues.

 

3. Connecting the TV to my phone's wireless hostspot, the DisneyPlus and TVNZ+ app's worked correctly.

 

4. The DisneyPlus and TVNZ+ app's installed on his phone worked correctly when the phone was using his (ORBI) wireless network (mobile data disabled).

 

5. With my laptop connected to a LAN port on the ORBI, Internet connectivity would drop out for a second or two, every 1-2 minutes. (Shown by the Windows 10 globe coming and going. This continued even after the LAN cable was replaced).

 

6. Westpac.co.nz was accessible and worked correctly from my LAN-connected laptop. The DisneyPlus and TVNZ+ websites were also accessible and usable.

 

Router change
The ORBI router was replaced with a Spark Smart Modem (Arcadyn), but the issues listed above (Westpac from his laptop, DisneyPlus and TVNZ+ app's on the TV, etc) remained. However, the Windows 10 globe no longer appeared on my laptop.

 

Conclusion
It's hard to not conclude that a subtle and specific fault was introduced in the third week of August, which is still present, to cause the issues described above. E.g., two TV app's stopped working, the other two still work.

 

From other posts with weird stuff happening, replacing the ONT seems to be a good next step. 

 

Suggestions, please folks! 

 

And, could someone from 2degrees put their hand up:-) (Multiple fault calls were raised. The account number is available)

 

All input will be gratefully received. If further information is needed, please ask.

 

Thanks,

 

Scott

 

 

 


 
 
 

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  #3143618 6-Oct-2023 14:25
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getontoit99:

 

Thanks @xpd, @RunningMan and @quickymart

 

I agree about the ONT being an unlikely cause but threw it out there anyway.

 

Unless we can engage someone from 2degrees who is a position to resolve the issue, I'll be advising my friend to follow Gavin to another ISP.

 

 

Disable IPv6 on the TV if it has such.





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  #3143651 6-Oct-2023 16:12
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Hmm, I've seen some similar stuff from about that time!

 

 

 

Today set my MTU on the Orbi to 930 and problems went away. https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49&topicid=307129&page_no=1#3143616

 

 

 

Note that the smaller MTU isn't ideal - it means you're sending 1/3 packets to get the same message across. But the Disney+ with IPv6 is the _exact_ same thing you're describing :)


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  #3143880 7-Oct-2023 09:49

Orbi router keeps losing connection to internet. Have been online waiting for 2degrees for 64 minutes so far and connection has dropped out and reconnected thrice during the wait.
I'm in Whanganui is anyone else experiencing this issue?

 

How do I lodge a formal complaint with which authority regarding ridiculous wait times/


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  #3143882 7-Oct-2023 10:00
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@stick has the same issue in the same location https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=81&topicid=309306 


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  #3143883 7-Oct-2023 10:00
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rmacdee:

 

How do I lodge a formal complaint with which authority regarding ridiculous wait times/

 

 

Wait times? That's up to each company to manage. You would speak to 2degrees about something like that. There's no law that says they have to answer your call in X seconds or anything.


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  #3143901 7-Oct-2023 11:57
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@rmacdee Worse time to call is during a known outage. This was posted on the 2degrees broadband status page and is now resolved

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  #3143906 7-Oct-2023 12:18

Understood but the issue has been intermittent for the last few days and this morning first thing (5-6ish) there was no internet - 2Degrees put up the status notice at 9:45


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  #3143908 7-Oct-2023 12:28
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Linux: @rmacdee Worse time to call is during a known outage. This was posted on the 2degrees broadband status page and is now resolved

It was not on the status page when the issue was largely occuring

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