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#309415 17-Oct-2023 13:14
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A couple of months ago, I got the email from Orcon about pricing increases.  I'd been thinking for a while about reviewing my provider/plan to save money, so decided to take the pricing increase as a motivation to do something about it - I switched to Quic.

 

The switch itself was almost entirely seamless - I needed to adjust router config to drop VLAN10 (my choice) and switch auth method, and that was it - up and running again with no issues.

 

Orcon's billing, however, I didn't perhaps line up as well as I should have - I gave them their 30 days notice, and perhaps slightly mistakenly advised them my last service date a couple of days after my connection date with Quic.

 

Unfortunately, this mean that my last-date with Orcon was 3 days after my normal billing date, and they've now sent me an invoice for the next month's service - starting the date I commenced with Quic - i.e. I'd be paying for 3 days with Orcon before my previously advised end-of-service date.

 

In itself this isn't a big deal - I'm happy to pay the couple of days; but I lodged a query with them about the bill, and after 4 days have heard nothing.  So I rung them, and this is where it gets interesting.

 

They claim they CAN'T stop their systems from taking the full payment amount via direct debit (the processing date is a week away, so that seems unlikely), and they'd then issue a "credit" onto my account when their systems worked out I should have only paid 3 days and not 30....  

 

BUT, I'd need to call them back again to request/arrange that "credit" to be refunded as actual money into my bank account!!

 

To me, this seems incredibly dodge, and I'm now on hold with my bank...

 

The PSA would be: If you're going to leave Orcon for someone else, it seems you need to make sure your last date of service is JUST BEFORE your billing date, and NOT a few days after; unless you want to go cap-in-hand to ask for your money back.  This despite them having 30 days notice...

 

Sigh.

 

<end of minor rant>


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  #3148461 17-Oct-2023 15:41
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Orcon are incorrect - you have until 3 working days before a payment (IIRC) to cancel mor query it.

 

My suggestion is that if you cannot get Orcon to change the DD, get your bank to cancel the DD authority.  Insist on this that authority is yours to cancel although your bank may well prefer you to deal with Orcon without their involvement.

 

Take a look around the banking ombudsman's website: Direct debits | Banking Ombudsman Scheme (bankomb.org.nz)





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  #3148474 17-Oct-2023 16:30
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Yea I had the same issue. Gave them 6 weeks notice but it fell 6 days into the next billing period. Payment went out and then I had to beg for a refund. Entire process took them 5 weeks to refund me 2 weeks just to respond to each email reply.

 

Good on you for leaving since 2D took over the service has fallen over.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #3148475 17-Oct-2023 16:31
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My view is that its your account, you can stop payments going from it regardless who the other end are. If you've notified your bank to prevent the transfer, and they still allow it, then I'd consider it fraud/theft.





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  #3148587 17-Oct-2023 22:18
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Direct Debit authority revoked at/by the bank; but the customer services person said that the merchant does retain the ability to reactive it somehow [I'm assuming they could resubmit my original forms again], but this was unlikely; and I could dispute the transaction should it happen.

If they present my final bill in the next week or so, I'll pay it via credit card; I'm not trying to not pay; I'm just trying to not overpay and then have the hassle of having to ask for my money back.

Not really a great end to over 10 years of being a fairly happy customer, sadly.

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  #3148617 18-Oct-2023 07:55
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shrub:

 

Yea I had the same issue. Gave them 6 weeks notice but it fell 6 days into the next billing period. Payment went out and then I had to beg for a refund. Entire process took them 5 weeks to refund me 2 weeks just to respond to each email reply.

 

Good on you for leaving since 2D took over the service has fallen over.

 

 

Same here, with the recent price increase I moved to Skinny, got charged $250 for a modem I never had.  Showed them the email from 4.5yrs previously where I said no thanks to a modem and it took many emails, FB chats and about 6 weeks to get my money back.  Oh well, they were great for me until 2d got involved.

 

And seriously, $250 for an almost 5yr old modem if I had received one.  Jeez.


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