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DaveB

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#70994 3-Nov-2010 11:26
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I have been with Orcon for 5 years and for most of that time have found them to be a very professional and proud organisation. My home internet connection was fast 24/7 and the only two problems I ever had were dealt with in a very responsive manner.

Their profile was impressive and most Geekzoners had nothing but praise for them. Management would often pop in to help on the forums and acknowleged the praise and importantly, any problems that customers may have aired in this very public and knowlegeable forum. Problems always appeared to be acknowledged with a view to rectifying the situation and customer feedback was encouraged. To an outsider, Orcon certainly appeared to be at the top of their game with great customer service, a great product offering and a business culture that the remaining ISPs could only hope to aspire to.

Sadly, my own experience over the past eight months is a totally different story and has shown how quickly things can change from good to abysmal. Abysmal speeds after 5pm and during weekends is a little hard to swallow as I work from home a lot. Abysmal customer service is hard to swallow as I run my own businness and will not change from that old fashioned course of the customer is always right. Lost emails? Heh, thats nothing compared to the problems we had recieving emails at work from two of our largest suppliers, both of whom use Orcon as their provider. Yes it was a problem at Orcons end and my IT guy was pulling his hair out for 5 days trying to get this rectified.

We have seen a thread lasting 6 or 7 months complaining about Orcons overseas connectivity problems and I recently rang up to ask if this was likely to be rectified shortly as I was just about to consider my business connection arrangements with a view to transfering it all to Orcon. I have to admit that I would not swallow his comments that he was not aware of any problems with overseas connectivity or a slowdown of gigantic proportions at peak time, nor would I swallow that it was a fault on my home line (which mysteriously has been fixing itself outside of those hours for the past six months).

It just goes to show how easy it is to lose that top perch and I can't help but wonder if Orcon is a company in crisis, or is there worse to come?

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  #399553 3-Nov-2010 11:55
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I think the denying is what makes them look bad. See ICONZ. Every single problem they've had with their network (local or international) they were honest and open about it.




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  #399604 3-Nov-2010 13:46
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If I recall correctly from about 2004 till 2009 Orcon was making significant losses, eg:  3.5 million loss in the financial year to June 2009.

Also worth noting that Kordia bought Orcon for $25 million in 2007, so it's fair to say significant cost cutting has happened since 2008.

I think as recently as mid last year 23+ jobs were cut so it's no surprise customer service has declined.

Lets hope they can turn it around and remain profitable while providing good service, strong competition for Telecom and Telstraclear is good for consumers but yeah current performance is sub par imo.

However given Oron is effectively owned and by association is a SOE (state owned enterprise) I won't hold my breath. 

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  #399635 3-Nov-2010 14:25
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There are alot of ISP's out there having international bandwidth problems, Almost every ISP sub-forum here has some kind of speed related complaint thread.

As line speeds have increase so has has the amount of bandwidth needed to serve the same amount of clients for cheaper. Bandwidth cost's have come down but not enough. A year ago I had figures of 250+ per mbit CIR @ SKT now I have figures of $150+ per mbit CIR @ SKT.

Orcon has been making efforts with things like their google cache but it's simply not enough, A user on a ADSL2 plan with a high cap can soak up huge amounts of bandwidth which costs. We were in a recession, I'm sure Orcon wasn't the only ISP laying off people or not hiring.



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  #399700 3-Nov-2010 16:10
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Recession and bandwidth figures aside, they're still terrible in comparison to others.

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  #399718 3-Nov-2010 16:35
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Daylo: Recession and bandwidth figures aside, they're still terrible in comparison to others.


Dunno bout that, try slingshot!

It seems that its not *ALL* isps having major congestion issues, its the mid-tier ISPs. Telecom and TCL dont seem to be having the dramatic increases in peak congestion like Orcon, Slingshot, WxC have had in the past year or so.
Line speeds increasing while prices stay constant is a big, not widely recognized issue, but it seems that the 2-3 biggest ISPs arent struggling with this as much as the medium size ones

Ive only got experience on snap, telecom and slingshot so am basing this on what I have read on GZ.

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  #399731 3-Nov-2010 16:58
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Daylo: Recession and bandwidth figures aside, they're still terrible in comparison to others.


In what way? I'm genuinely curious about this.


Telecom and TCL also own chunks of the SCC if I remember correctly, They also have the largest caching infrastructure of any ISP in the country and it wouldn't surprise me to hear they have local CDN servers that other ISP's dont

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  #399736 3-Nov-2010 17:02

nickb800:
Daylo: Recession and bandwidth figures aside, they're still terrible in comparison to others.


Dunno bout that, try slingshot!

It seems that its not *ALL* isps having major congestion issues, its the mid-tier ISPs. Telecom and TCL dont seem to be having the dramatic increases in peak congestion like Orcon, Slingshot, WxC have had in the past year or so.
Line speeds increasing while prices stay constant is a big, not widely recognized issue, but it seems that the 2-3 biggest ISPs arent struggling with this as much as the medium size ones

Ive only got experience on snap, telecom and slingshot so am basing this on what I have read on GZ.


I'm with Xnet and haven't had any issues. I must admit that they have lifted their game recently, and they respond to emails within a few hours.Really good service. International capacity does depend on the ISP, and how much capacity they buy, so you do get differences.



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  #399794 3-Nov-2010 19:43
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Interesting to see no one complaining about Snap. I'm considering the switch.




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  #399800 3-Nov-2010 19:55
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magu: Interesting to see no one complaining about Snap. I'm considering the switch.



If you want to change to Snap, don't hope for a static IP, even if you ask for one.


They have one assigned on their end for a friend of mine, but his actual IP changes every couple of days. 

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  #399801 3-Nov-2010 19:56
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ethanrose:
magu: Interesting to see no one complaining about Snap. I'm considering the switch.



If you want to change to Snap, don't hope for a static IP, even if you ask for one.


They have one assigned on their end for a friend of mine, but his actual IP changes every couple of days. 


If that's the worst of their problems, I'm not worried. I rely on DynDNS for home anyway.

The thing that bugs me is that I can't port my number over, but that's going a little bit off-topic. 




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  #399805 3-Nov-2010 20:07
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magu:
ethanrose:
magu: Interesting to see no one complaining about Snap. I'm considering the switch.



If you want to change to Snap, don't hope for a static IP, even if you ask for one.


They have one assigned on their end for a friend of mine, but his actual IP changes every couple of days. 


If that's the worst of their problems, I'm not worried. I rely on DynDNS for home anyway.

The thing that bugs me is that I can't port my number over, but that's going a little bit off-topic. 


Ahh porting - our fickle friend. New post? 

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  #399858 3-Nov-2010 22:00
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I've just switched from Orcon to Snap, and while there have been a few teething problems, the main issue of youtube and general download speeds at peak have largely been resolved. Their comms aint too bad, either.

I've only been with them a week, ask me in a few months though.

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  #399882 3-Nov-2010 22:44
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Orcon definitely have problems. Right at the minute there is a loss of international connectivity (facebook/reddit/hotmail not working but local sites are fine).

It's been going on since May 2009 for me - abysmal. Others in my area with other ISP's seem fine.




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  #399886 3-Nov-2010 22:52
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Orcon Status page:
3/11/10 9:42 pm UNSCEDULED OUTAGE: International Transit Issue
There is a current outage affecting International Traffic.

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  #399891 3-Nov-2010 23:01
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International is now working for me




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