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#2232270 7-May-2019 13:39

No. I'm saying to use crimped (either radial or hex) on F types on all coax fly leads and then use Belling Lee adapters to connect to TV (which has a Belling Lee socket). Belling Lee type plastic (or even aluminium) plugs should NOT be used in the modern world.

Belling Lee to F type http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/belling-plug-type-adaptor-p-243.html

Even better. http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/belling-plug-crimp-type-p-668.html crimp on Belling Lee.

Note: Signal from satellite dish cannot be converted to anything other than what it is by the use of any adapter. Its still the same L band DVB-S/S2 modulated signal no matter what physical connector is on the cable.

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#2232288 7-May-2019 14:48

OnceBitten:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belling-Lee_connector

This is what the UHF aerial plug / connector looks like (the one on the left) but I don't think ours is in that good condition

Have the plug cut off the UHF cable and replaced with an F-type. Then get the adaptor to fit it to the antenna socket on the Freeview receiver.

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#2232294 7-May-2019 15:08

You guys are both suggesting that he use an F-type connector with a Belling Lee adapter at the device end, rather than a cable terminating in Belling Lee (as offered here) - what's the reason for that? I know Belling Lee is rubbish, but all our equipment uses it so we're stuck with it, and surely avoiding the use of an adapter if possible is going to be electrically superior?

I ask because I need to buy a couple of new RG6 cables for some new TV tuners, and would have assumed the Freeview shop offer of cables with 1x Belling Lee and 1x F-type were a good bet.

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#2232305 7-May-2019 15:52

@Spyware knows a lot more about the technical details than I do. I doubt it makes much difference in this case. The F-connector has better high-frequency properties but the extra adaptor results in some added attenuation. I am happy to follow @Spyware's judgement on this.

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#2232312 7-May-2019 16:20

I would suspect the whole problem lies with the antenna system which appears to be rather old. I suspect the splitter is an old analogue type which performs poorly with DVB-T UHF. Using one antenna split to two occupiers/tenants is a poor setup from the start. There should be one antenna per unit. Basically I'd start from scratch with a new antenna and cabling for each unit. Any splitters should be modern metal cased UHF ones with f connectors.

As for HDMI vs RCA. The cables are only transferring video/audio the the TV so either should work fine and shouldn't have any effect on the picture of different channels. All channels should be transferred to the TV over either connections. Only the rf input side can affect the picture to the extent quoted.

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#2232332 7-May-2019 16:35

Wow finally someone else stating the obvious, as previously mentioned, honestly can't believe all the hypo technical advice being given for the most simplest of tasks.
Actually I see you are on the shore so why even bother with an outdoor aerial just get a good indoor one connected directly to the back of you old TV and be done with it in 5min!

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#2232351 7-May-2019 17:02

Lots of North Shore can't get reception with indoor antenna. If the outdoor antenna isn't sufficient what does that tell you - signal strength should be at least 30 dB greater than any indoor.

Maybe OP could provide photos of antenna, splitter etc.

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#2232356 7-May-2019 17:08

Actually as the op has stated everything is old and broken and going through a spitter as well, who knows whether he's got good reception or not.
But as I have already mentioned getting an outdoor UHF would be a good strategy, an indoor one which comes with a built in amplifier should be sufficient depending on his exact address.
Having lived in Glenfield and Forrest hill we had no problem with our setup.

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#2232381 7-May-2019 18:10

After reading the OPs threads of nearly 5 years ago I say call an antenna installer.

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#2232459 7-May-2019 20:54

thanks for all the replies - we are in Castor bay if that makes a difference, our neighbour said he just uses Freeview and never said anything bad about it - I do not know if he has a freeview box or if he is going straight through the TV.

Yes I have thought about getting an aerial installer, or at least getting someone out who knows a bit more than I do - just for advice really.

I don't really want to fork out $$$ for a new aerial if I don't have to..... as the whole idea of switching to Freeview was to save us money!

I'll see if I can take photos of the splitter but might not be able to get that close as it is just under the roof

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#2232515 7-May-2019 21:53

OnceBitten:

Yes I have thought about getting an aerial installer, or at least getting someone out who knows a bit more than I do - just for advice really.

I don't really want to fork out $$$ for a new aerial if I don't have to..... as the whole idea of switching to Freeview was to save us money!

You really do need to.

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#2232517 7-May-2019 21:55

If you want the problem resolved then get someone to fix it, that simple. The money you save from purchasing a DVB-S box buys you the services of someone who can provide usable signal to the DVB-T box.

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#2234711 10-May-2019 20:01

B1GGLZ:
I would suspect the whole problem lies with the antenna system which appears to be rather old. I suspect the splitter is an old analogue type which performs poorly with DVB-T UHF. Using one antenna split to two occupiers/tenants is a poor setup from the start. There should be one antenna per unit. Basically I'd start from scratch with a new antenna and cabling for each unit. Any splitters should be modern metal cased UHF ones with f connectors.

As for HDMI vs RCA. The cables are only transferring video/audio the the TV so either should work fine and shouldn't have any effect on the picture of different channels. All channels should be transferred to the TV over either connections. Only the rf input side can affect the picture to the extent quoted.

HDMI radiates all sorts of noise which the RF cable will pick up, Not uncommon for the old non shielded ones to have reception die totally or start pixelating even with great signal going into them.

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