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Freeview service arrives without Prime

5:00AM Wednesday April 02, 2008
By John Drinnan

The platform war between Sky Television and Freeview moved to a new arena today with the "soft launch" of the Freeview digital terrestrial service for free-to-air TV.

Sky says is too expensive to have its free-to-air channel Prime on the Freeview platform but Freeview insists the delay is designed to slow uptake for Freeview.

The Freeview digital terrestrial television (DTT) official launch by Prime Minister Helen Clark is on April 14.

But Freeview general manager Steve Browning said that channels on the DTT would be up and running from today and retailers would begin selling new set-top boxes that enable people to pick up UHF signals from towers.

He expected the DTT service would be more attractive and cause a big increase in Freeview users.

Digital television provides clearer signals and the Freeview digital platforms will be the only source for free-to-air television when analogue signals are switched off, possibly in 2012.

Today's launch also includes the start of the first high-definition TV broadcasts - initially on TV3 but planned for TVNZ in time for the Olympics - which Freeview hopes will boost sales.

Prime TV is not joining the party.

"It would cost us $2.5 million a year to put Prime on to Freeview digital terrestrial" said John Fellet, chief executive of pay TV company Sky Television which bought Prime in February 2006.

"That is about half of Prime's programming budget. We'll join Freeview when it makes financial sense for us and it does not right now," said Fellet.

The move was planned when DTT reached 10 per cent of the population.

Prime also did not join Freeview when it started its satellite service 11 months ago, saying that the Freeview signal strayed into Pacific Island territories and this would put it in breach of rights deals it had for sports events.

Freeview's Browning acknowledged the rights issue.

But he says Sky is keeping Prime off Freeview terrestrial to discourage uptake of the new digital service.

"People find it hard to understand why Sky is not there," he said claiming that the Freeview arrival had affected Sky.

Fellet said that the $2.5 million charge it would have to pay state-owned transmission company Kordia to be on Freeview was too much. Kordia would not detail costs.

But Browning dismissed Fellet's suggestion Prime was staying off Freeview because of cost.

A Freeview source - not Browning - said that the cost of broadcasting a standard channel on the digital terrestrial platform would be around one sixth or one eighth of the $2.5 million figure.

Browning said that in four years Freeview would be in one third of New Zealand homes. After 11 months there were around 80,000 set-top boxes sold for the satellite service which would be the main source for the 25 per cent of the country that cannot receive DTT signals.

 

- NZ Herald

 

This annoys me how Prime are mucking about with this.

They might as well just make it a Sky channel  Yell

If channels like Cue, Stratos etc can afford to run on Freeview, surely Prime can?


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  #120447 2-Apr-2008 10:00

If channels like Cue, Stratos etc can afford to run on Freeview, surely Prime can?


My thoughts exactly. Would love to see Prime on Freeview!



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  #120452 2-Apr-2008 10:08
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I would have thought the sports rights issue on the satellite services is easily sorted by rerunning old runs of Praise Be or 2Fat Ladies when certain Sports is on just like happens in the States, or the more obvioius just encrypting during those events limiting it to Sky subs only, at least we could see Top Gear in 16:9 FTA.

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  #120453 2-Apr-2008 10:08
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I no longer class Prime as a Free To Air channel - solely because it's not on the Freeview platform which now that it has launched both satellite and terrestrial services is now officially the replacement for our analogue TV platform.

Sky are already missing out on a large number of viewers for Prime and the fact they have now outsourced cricket coverage on Freeview is surely acknowledgement that Prime is no longer classed as a FTA channel, even by them.




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Which means that Prime has become little more than the Box or Vibe, with some 5:30pm News thrown in.

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Hmm, annoying, i've just spent several hours setting up the HTPC to be able to run prime as the sole analogue channel and all the others as DVB-T, it would help a lot to make it DVB-T also.

I agree that if Cue and Stratos can afford to be on freeview then Prime surely can. I guess it's just a waiting game until Prime either become subscription only or it makes it to freeview. Here's hoping it's the latter option that happens first.

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  #120475 2-Apr-2008 12:23
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Fair enough - the whole mantra for Freeview has been 'make subscriptions a thing of the past' what do they expect Sky are going to do, hand it over for nothing?

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  #120488 2-Apr-2008 13:23
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Sky are a Pay TV Company (#7 on the stock market), they will never give anything away for free, the only reason why Prime on Analogue isn't encrypted is because it hasn't been in the past, if Sky could get away with crypting it and then sending out UHF boxes to everyone they would.  There is nothing fair or in the customers interest from Mr Murdoch.

 
 
 

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BarTender: Sky are a Pay TV Company (#7 on the stock market), they will never give anything away for free, the only reason why Prime on Analogue isn't encrypted is because it hasn't been in the past, if Sky could get away with crypting it and then sending out UHF boxes to everyone they would. There is nothing fair or in the customers interest from Mr Murdoch.


Their UHF license is as an FTA broadcaster so they can't encrypt there.

Also they apply for NZ On Air funding as an FTA broadcaster now that their UHF converage has increased.

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  #120495 2-Apr-2008 13:56
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openmedia:
Also they apply for NZ On Air funding as an FTA broadcaster now that their UHF converage has increased.

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Maybe the NZ On Air funding requirements need to be looked out so it only includes tv stations that are on on Freeview
or atleast reduce the amount paid to stations that are not.




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BarTender: Sky are a Pay TV Company (#7 on the stock market), they will never give anything away for free, the only reason why Prime on Analogue isn't encrypted is because it hasn't been in the past, if Sky could get away with crypting it and then sending out UHF boxes to everyone they would.  There is nothing fair or in the customers interest from Mr Murdoch.


But Sky wants everything for free.  They complained that they couldn't TVNZ6 several months ago..




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openmedia:  Their UHF license is as an FTA broadcaster so they can't encrypt there

What do you mean?  Frequency licenses don't state what the usage is for, they are just a right to broadcast and the technical paramaters for broadcast.

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pjamieson: openmedia: Their UHF license is as an FTA broadcaster so they can't encrypt there

What do you mean? Frequency licenses don't state what the usage is for, they are just a right to broadcast and the technical paramaters for broadcast.


Ok so they have the right to broadcast in analogue but not digital. If they want to encrypt and go onto Sky's UHF network they can but they would loose all of their NZ On Air funding and a lot of advertising.




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i see in this article on Stuff today that Prime are worried about the cost.  They seem to want it for free....


Freeview says the Government should force Sky TV to make its free-to-air channel Prime available on Freeview.

 

Mr Browning says this would increase the uptake of Freeview HD and hasten the transition from analogue to digital TV.

 

Why Prime is off the menu is the biggest question Freeview gets asked by consumers, he says. Such "must offer" rules are often imposed on commercial broadcasters overseas, he says.

 

Sky TV spokesman Tony O'Brien says Sky fully intends making Prime available on Freeview HD, and in high- definition format, but only when viewer numbers justify the investment. He estimates the cost at about $2.2 million. Sky "would do it tomorrow" if the Government met all the costs.

 

"We have already got Prime delivered by satellite and UHF. It is uneconomical for us to spend money on a third network at this stage. We are waiting to see the viewership grow on [Freeview HD] and when it is at a sufficient level of course we are going to have Prime there."

 

Mr Browning says it might not be unfair for Sky TV to get the same government subsidies paid to free-to-air channels to help meet some of the costs it incurred making Prime available on digital.

 

The subsidies were offered to Sky, but it refused them when Freeview was created. They did not meet broadcasters' costs in full.


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