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PhilANZ

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#233475 17-Apr-2018 19:36

Wanted to watch tonight's program on Keith Park and discovered Maori TV uses a new mux (whatever that is). Retuning as adviced didn't find it (auto or manual).
We have a Panasonic TV and Panasonic recorder - probably 5 or so years old at a guess.
We'll miss tonight's programme - but does that mean we'll not get MTV without additional hardware?

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#1998046 17-Apr-2018 19:42

You'll need a functioning antenna.

PhilANZ

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#1998056 17-Apr-2018 19:48

now I'm more confused - we've had 3 freeview recievers of several years. Just required retuning occasionally. This is terrestrial Freeview - so why an antennae?

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#1998058 17-Apr-2018 19:50

That's what receives the signal and passes it to front end of tuner stage.

PhilANZ

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#1998061 17-Apr-2018 19:56

Sorry - I'm missing something. ALL other channels are fine - just Maori. Why does it need a new antenna - especially since part of the change as I understand is bring HD to the Maori channel which doesn't come via antenna - only terrestrial.
I could well be missing something here - but if so it's beyond me.

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#1998062 17-Apr-2018 19:59

Reception with your current antenna is marginal, i.e., tuner can lock the lower end of the band but not the frequency on which Maori TV resides (highest frequency mux). Making sure you actually have a UHF antenna and its actually pointing to the transmitter is a first step.

PhilANZ

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#1998068 17-Apr-2018 20:17

Thanks for that. Guess I'll just have to skip Maori TV in future. Sad - there's so little on TV anyway.

We're only 2-3km from CBD (Lower Hutt) but our hilly area causes cell phone reception issues (esp Vodafone, 2Degrees a bit and Spark least problematic).

Stu1

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#1998072 17-Apr-2018 20:24

PhilANZ: Thanks for that. Guess I'll just have to skip Maori TV in future. Sad - there's so little on TV anyway.

We're only 2-3km from CBD (Lower Hutt) but our hilly area causes cell phone reception issues (esp Vodafone, 2Degrees a bit and Spark least problematic).

Mabey get someone in to look at where you can get the best signal, I’m in Upper Hutt but get better signal pointing to Wainui than Hayward’s the closest transmitter. Aerial man 0800 373 388 was well priced and very helpful

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PhilANZ

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#1998077 17-Apr-2018 20:30

We did spend a bit of time (very amateurish) but checked out the options on the chart below - no sign of reasonable signals anywhere.

https://www.rsm.govt.nz/online-services-resources/pdf-and-documents-library/publications-and-guides/broadcasting/digital-television-channel-usage/table-of-digital-television-channel-useage

cb1

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#1998115 17-Apr-2018 21:07

As others suggested, you check your UHF aerial for orientation, damage from the recent storms, etc.

But, you should be able to see the program on the Maori TV On Demand service.

PhilANZ

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#1998120 17-Apr-2018 21:14

I suppose I could - but othjer channels are all brilliant. Pity they didn't put some of them over.

But did not know there was an on-demand - will check that out. Thanks.

gstarkey

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#1998164 17-Apr-2018 22:20

I am also in lower hutt. Maori TV has been fine for years. Signal strength has dropped very low. All other channels have no issue. Same issue on four devices. Looks like a problem with Fitzherbert

fe31nz

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#1998208 17-Apr-2018 23:03

Maori TV and Te Reo are now broadcast from a new mux on a new frequency owned by Maori as part of the treaty settlements. Using their own mux allows them to broadcast in HD now, as there was not enough bandwidth on the mux they were on before to do that. If your TV and recorder are fully Freeview compliant, they should be able to get the new frequency data from what is sent over the other frequencies and automatically find it. But as they are fairly old, maybe they can not do that. If not, then you may need to do a full scan of all possible frequencies manually, or just scan the one new frequency manually. If you are receiving from Kaukau as I do at my Lower Hutt flat, then the new frequency should be the same as I receive it on from Wharite as Wharite and Kaukau use the same frequencies (but different polarities). I do not need to retune my laptop's tuners from the Palmerston North settings if I am in Lower Hutt, which is very useful.

Here are all the frequencies (kHz) for the multiplexes on Wharite (vertical) and Kaukau (horizontal), and their channels on Wharite:

530000 Kordia/WTV (Apna, Al Jazeera, TVSN Shopping, TV29, Hope Channel, Radio NZ National, HGTV, NCTV-Chinese, Shine TV)

562000 Mediaworks (Three, Bravo, ThreePlus1, Bravo PLUS 1, The Edge TV, ThreeLife)

578000 TVNZ (TVNZ 1, TVNZ 2, TVNZ DUKE, TVNZ 1 +1, TVNZ 2 +1)

594000 Kordia (Parliament, ChineseTV, PRIME, ChoiceTV, Firstlight, Radio NZ Concert, BaseFM)

610000 Maori (Maori Television, Te Reo)

If you are receiving from Haywards (your aerial will be vertical polarization), then you can find the correct frequencies here in the official table:

https://www.rsm.govt.nz/online-services-resources/pdf-and-documents-library/publications-and-guides/broadcasting/digital-television-channel-usage/table-of-digital-television-channel-useage

To get the frequency value you need, take the pair of numbers at the top of the column and find the centre value and that is the frequency in MHz that you need to tune to.

You probably also need to rescan the Mediaworks mux, as the ThreeLife channel started broadcasting this week.

PhilANZ

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#1998967 18-Apr-2018 20:44

Thanks so much for that. Still don't fully understand it but somewhow it was simple to set up. Seems our gear is a bit old to scan the new ranges automatically, but once we directed them manually, it fell into place. Really appreciate it.

cb1

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#1999185 19-Apr-2018 10:44

PhilANZ: I suppose I could - but othjer channels are all brilliant. Pity they didn't put some of them over.

But did not know there was an on-demand - will check that out. Thanks.

It was hard to find, but the doco is available on demand at http://www.maoritelevision.com/tv/shows/feature-documentaries/S01E001/kiwi-who-saved-britain

PhilANZ

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#1999202 19-Apr-2018 11:14

Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one who found it hard to find. But I did find it - and it was indeed worth watching. I never appreciated history at school - it's only now I'm older I realise how true it is that "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." (George Santayana)

I knew the war was looking very bleak at times, but it really gave a sense of how close Britain came. I was taught that if the Yanks hadn't rescued us, we'd have been lost. Of course in the Pacific that was more the case than in Europe, but on the bigger it was teamwork (of a sort) - with heroes all around - including the underground, etc.

In this case it was good to see a Kiwi looking at things with fresh eyes.