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Topic # 30515 11-Feb-2009 12:21
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From the "You Ask Freeview" discussion, Freeview clearly states that its up to the individual channel/broadcasted to decide whether to be on Freeview.

In regards to NASA TV, which was on Freeview during testing, whats the story? Axed by Freeview? Would love to see them back.

Someone suggested that Freeview dropped them because channels such as NASA TV and others (Bloomberg, etc) have no commercial value. If this is the case, why is Fashion TV on Sky?






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  Reply # 195294 11-Feb-2009 12:30
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I guess there is probably nobody wanting to pay the $$ to be on the Freeview platform. While the channel may be free to air being on Freeview still costs money.


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  Reply # 195297 11-Feb-2009 12:39
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What was initially thought to be a modernisation/upgrade of the national broadcast network now seems to be based on a somewhat crazy marketing model platform.  It's designed to compete with SKY etc, even though it has no pay per view type content and essentially just mimmicks what's on 'normal' analogue TV anyway.  Add to that the fact you have to pay to be on the platform as well and yeah, I'd not expect to see anything like the NASA TV etc too soon.

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  Reply # 195342 11-Feb-2009 16:49
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Jaxson: What was initially thought to be a modernisation/upgrade of the national broadcast network now seems to be based on a somewhat crazy marketing model platform ... [it] essentially just mimmicks what's on 'normal' analogue TV anyway.
Don't forget that 'normal' analogue TV will be closed down - Freeview is its replacement. So programming that mimmicks what's on analogue is quite understandable.

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  Reply # 195405 11-Feb-2009 21:33
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Funny I read this now.
I wondered what that channel was that showed up in my analog scans.

Now I have a total of 5 on analog, not that I watch them all

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  Reply # 195438 12-Feb-2009 01:58
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MrWestie: Funny I read this now.
I wondered what that channel was that showed up in my analog scans.

Now I have a total of 5 on analog, not that I watch them all

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Wait, this is what, terrestrial analogue?

I'm pretty sure NASA stopped broadcasting in analogue back in 2005 - Unless someone is rebroadcasting their feed from digital to analogue.





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  Reply # 195455 12-Feb-2009 08:12
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James Bond: Wait, this is what, terrestrial analogue?

I'm pretty sure NASA stopped broadcasting in analogue back in 2005 - Unless someone is rebroadcasting their feed from digital to analogue.

Correct, off waiatarua in my case.

From this comment it looked it was comming back, nasa.
http://72.14.235.132/search?q=cache:G31SN_v0u6QJ:tvnz.co.nz/view/tvnz_minisite_story_skin/1157431%3Fpage%3D36+epg+nasa+channel+nz&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=nz&client=firefox-a

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  Reply # 195457 12-Feb-2009 08:23
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Can you please tell me what frequency you are picking up NASA TV on?

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  Reply # 195458 12-Feb-2009 08:37
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You sure this is not the Amateur TV group feed of NASA TV??  I can sort of pick that up but snowy..




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  Reply # 195465 12-Feb-2009 09:03
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old3eyes: You sure this is not the Amateur TV group feed of NASA TV??  I can sort of pick that up but snowy..

I think you are right, ch 234.
I did wonder why it was fuzzy.

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  Reply # 195470 12-Feb-2009 09:43
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Deev8:
Jaxson: What was initially thought to be a modernisation/upgrade of the national broadcast network now seems to be based on a somewhat crazy marketing model platform ... [it] essentially just mimmicks what's on 'normal' analogue TV anyway.
Don't forget that 'normal' analogue TV will be closed down - Freeview is its replacement. So programming that mimmicks what's on analogue is quite understandable.

Yeah the switch off will come, but probably towards say 2012 sort of thing.  What I was getting at is that freeview is advertising like it's an alternative to SKY and I'm sure there will be some disappointed customers expecting some sort of SKY equivalent, only to find they have what they already had, (albeit far better in several ways), but 80% same content as such.  Definately no pay per view content such as sports/latest movies etc.

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  Reply # 195481 12-Feb-2009 10:59
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Jaxson: I'm sure there will be some disappointed customers expecting some sort of SKY equivalent, only to find they have what they already had ... Definately no pay per view content such as sports/latest movies etc.
Pay per view content and Freeview will (or should) always be incompatible - by definition Freeview needs to be free to view.

Jaxson: What I was getting at is that freeview is advertising like it's an alternative to SKY
Ah - the 'crystal clear quality without having to pay a subscription- type of adverts. They certainly could mislead some people, but I believe that they were aimed at the significant number of people who in the past had to take the most basic Sky subscription available just to be able to see TV One, 2 and 3. For them it was very good news that they could get those channels and more from Freeview satellite.

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  Reply # 195536 12-Feb-2009 14:00
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Yeah and in the new ads they are stating "9 channels."




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  Reply # 195581 12-Feb-2009 17:32
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Jaxson: Yeah the switch off will come, but probably towards say 2012 sort of thing. 


ASO will not happen in 2012. This seems to be a continually repeated piece of misinformation.

The Government will set a projected date for ASO when digital uptake reaches 75% or 2012 - whichever comes first. The expectation is that in 2012 a tentative date will be set which will be based upon the projected timeframe for digital tv to be in 95% of homes. ASO is certainly not expected to occur before 2014 and in will probably happen in the 2014 - 2016 timeframe but could be as late as 2018.

Aussie only begins ASO in 2013 and they've had a much higher uptake of digital TV than NZ.

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  Reply # 195589 12-Feb-2009 19:17
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The way we do things here it will most likely be 2030 before analog switch off




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  Reply # 195653 13-Feb-2009 06:45
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It really depends on what the motivation for ASO is. Unlike the US, the govt here I don't think, has any ready market for selling the analogue spectrum (presumably the VHF bands)  once it's available. Also is any of the existing analogue transmission gear near end of life and needing to be replaced (though by 2014 it could be).





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