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# 40511 30-Aug-2009 15:35
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As most people realise now the Zinwell and DSE G7500 only tunes Freeview channels, but after some playing around, I have managed to tune in SBS 1 and 2.

Here is a brief note on how I did it, hope it is not too confusing!!

Must know new service Frequency, VPID and APID codes and PCR

Add a new Satellite – I left as the default User Satellite

Auto tune “user satellite” from 12456 to 12483

Save - Will duplicate Freeview channels in the channel list.

Edit Transponder either one of the new frequencies 12456 or 12483, 3 or 4 in the list. Set the new service frequency, S/R and pol, eg for SBS 12646, 12600, V

Quit out of the menu, scroll through the channels till you find a duplicate Freeview channel that has no signal. Eg Statos on position 9

Go back into the Menu and Edit Channel, enter the new APID VPID and PCR. And save. Eg for SBS One 81, 161, 161

You can add more services on the same frequency to other “no signal” duplicated Channels by repeating the Edit channel process, such as for SBS 2

You have to manually rename the channels yourself.

Please note I am not an expert by any means, but by this method I am happily watching SBS One on 9, and SBS Two on 11.
I will try and answer any questions, but as I say I am no expert, just a hobby!

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  # 251778 30-Aug-2009 18:52
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After much mucking around ..... I finally got it working after following your suggestions !
many thanks !!

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  # 251782 30-Aug-2009 19:04
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Thanks for the tip, havnt yet got it working for the topfield 6000fe as the individual channels cant be edited...but will keep mucking around with it.


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  # 251784 30-Aug-2009 19:17
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Awesome, glad it worked for you. It's a mucky way but a work around for the severely restricted software on the Zinwell/DSE boxes.

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  # 251785 30-Aug-2009 19:20
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As a matter of interest what are the APID VPID and PCR for SBS 2 ?
and also what is the difference between SBS 1 and SBS 2 ?
Is it the same programs with just a time difference or does it have different programs ?

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  # 251786 30-Aug-2009 19:31
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I got the PIDs etc from

I don't really know the difference between the two channels, I have only just added them today, and have not really watched intensely. I am sure SBS have a website with their program listings.

Also managed to twist my dish and tune in broadcasts off other satellites, using my dodgy method!

Although at the end of the day, I would much rather have a non-freeview STB with a blind scan.

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  # 251789 30-Aug-2009 19:56
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PID's for SBS 2 are V162/A83/PCR162

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  # 251794 30-Aug-2009 20:10
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By the way I have a 90cm dish, Sharp 11300 LNB, about 8m of RG6, Zinwell G7500 HW 1.0, SW 6.B dated 18/4/08

Signal fluctuating 83-84% Quality 100% on 12483 D1

Signal fluctuating 82-83% Quality fluctuating 54-55% on 12646 D1

And it is a rainy night here in Auckland :)


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  # 251797 30-Aug-2009 20:14
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Sounds like you may need to skew your LNB very slightly. I get 76-80% quality on SBS 1 with a 45 cm dish and a Hyundai 760A with a MTI 10750 LNB in Auckland.

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  # 251799 30-Aug-2009 20:19
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OK thanks! Yes I have been reading some forums and I totally agree. Will have to wait tho as it is a bit dark and wet outside now.
Cheers man,

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  # 252055 31-Aug-2009 20:57
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Yippee :) SBS does work indeed. Being a newby at sat tv initially I was a bit puzzled at being able to get Horizontal but not vertical on the same lnb then got further puzzled by the chats on dual lnb's and Horizontal and vertical switching.

In an initial bit of frustration I grabbed the lnb to move it by force around a little and
the V signal appeared. :) then realised when changing from single lnb to dual, i made the simple mistake of tuning the D1 lnb to horizontal signal strength only thinking it was set ok.

This time around I re-setup the lnb bracket angle, lnb spacing and lnb Skew to the V strongest strength,  the H signal strength improved too :)

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