Use TV built-in Freeview decoder to receive satellite broadcasts?

Forums › Freeview (DVB-T/DVB-S) › Use TV built-in Freeview decoder to receive satellite broadcasts?

ArnoldGoat

54 posts

Master Geek

#94699 16-Dec-2011 21:41

Many new TVs have built-in Freeview decoders designed for DVB-T. Those of us with no line of sight to a transmitter have to use satellite. Rather than having to buy multiple DVB-S receivers, one for each TV, is it possible to manipulate the signal from the satellite LNB into a form that the TV decoders could use. The LNB presumably translates the satellite signal down to 1 (or so) GHz which is in the UHF range, but is the signal in a form that a TV-based decoder can handle? Perhaps there is scope for another block converter to move the group of transmissions into the band used for DVB-T. Any ideas?

1 | 2

1961 posts

Uber Geek

#558829 16-Dec-2011 22:10

ArnoldGoat:. Rather than having to buy multiple DVB-S receivers, one for each TV, is it possible to manipulate the signal from the satellite LNB into a form that the TV decoders could use.

Basically, No.

Spyware

3761 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

#558843 16-Dec-2011 22:39

950 to 2150 isn't in the 518 to 806 range at all, single carrier QPSK isn't 8K carrier 64QAM and mpeg2 isn't H.264.

Spark Max Fibre using Mikrotik CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+, CRS125-24G-1S, Unifi UAP, U6-Pro, UAP-AC-M-Pro, Apple TV 4K (2022), Apple TV 4K (2017), iPad Air 1st gen, iPad Air 4th gen, iPhone 13, SkyNZ3151 (the white box). If it doesn't move then it's data cabled.

CYaBro

4582 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

Trusted

#558860 17-Dec-2011 00:43

There are devices that will do what you want but they aren't cheap.
You'd be better to just have a stb at each tv.

Opinions are my own and not the views of my employer.

trig42

5809 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

#558887 17-Dec-2011 07:57

I wonder if we will get TVs with DVB-S tuners in them?
Pretty sure they exist in other markets.

sbiddle

30853 posts

Uber Geek

Retired Mod

Trusted

Biddle Corp

Lifetime subscriber

#558910 17-Dec-2011 09:05

trig42: I wonder if we will get TVs with DVB-S tuners in them?
Pretty sure they exist in other markets.

There have been a number of companies import and sell TV's with DVB-S tuners, just none that I'm aware of that are Freeview compliant with MHEG5. When you look at target market for such a product being 20% of the (already small) NZ population it makes very little sence to adapt a product to be compliant with Freeview.

SCUBADOO

192 posts

Master Geek

#558932 17-Dec-2011 10:54

I have simply velcroed one of these on each TV.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/electronics-photography/tvs/satellite-receivers/auction-431685374.htm

$30 and done.

Works perfectly.

hamish225

1418 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

#559030 17-Dec-2011 17:22

i assumed that freeview came through the satellite anyway?
how is a tv freeview capable if it can't receive satelite signals?

*Insert big spe*dtest result here*

Equinox IT

Cloud spending continues to surge globally, but most organisations haven’t made the changes necessary to maximise the value and cost-efficiency benefits of their cloud investments. Download the whitepaper From Overspend to Advantage now.

Behodar

10501 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#559031 17-Dec-2011 17:27

Freeview certified TVs are all Freeview HD, which is received over UHF.

sbiddle

30853 posts

Uber Geek

Retired Mod

Trusted

Biddle Corp

Lifetime subscriber

#559055 17-Dec-2011 18:31

hamish225: i assumed that freeview came through the satellite anyway?
how is a tv freeview capable if it can't receive satelite signals?

Freeview|HD terrestrial (DVB-T) covers 80% of the population, Freeview satellite (DVB-S) covers close to 100% of the population but the target market is only the 20% of the population that can't receive a Freeview|HD signal.

Jaxson

8041 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#559067 17-Dec-2011 19:05

hamish225: i assumed that freeview came through the satellite anyway?

Have you seen/heard anything about freeview? Not being rude, I'm just annoyed by the lack of easy/clear info out there about freeview.

As mentioned above, freeview comes in 2 flavours and the best one is transmitted on land. All freeview equipped TV's work with this UHF/land based/freeview HD service.

Satellite is the other flavour of freeview and it's intended for people outside the main coverage areas, who can't get freeview HD. It does not have as good a picture as the land based version (no HD ability) and it does not offer surround sound either.

ilovemusic

1439 posts

Uber Geek

#559081 17-Dec-2011 19:46

The revamped Freeview NZ site is about as basic but informative as it gets,

http://freeviewnz.tv/

richms

28168 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#559094 17-Dec-2011 20:50

SCUBADOO: I have simply velcroed one of these on each TV.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/electronics-photography/tvs/satellite-receivers/auction-431685374.htm

$30 and done.

Works perfectly.

Only composite out on that it appears tho? Sure are cheap however.

Richard rich.ms

trig42

5809 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

#559113 17-Dec-2011 22:32

richms:
SCUBADOO: I have simply velcroed one of these on each TV.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/electronics-photography/tvs/satellite-receivers/auction-431685374.htm

$30 and done.

Works perfectly.

Only composite out on that it appears tho? Sure are cheap however.

Real cheap.
Do they get the EPG? Doesn't say anything about it in the TM listing.

RGP

38 posts

Geek

#559389 18-Dec-2011 21:45

I've installed a few of these - have had no problem with them. No EPG but hey, for $30 they're good value and can be hidden behind the tv, great for a wall mounted flatscreen.

CYaBro

4582 posts

Uber Geek

ID Verified

Trusted

#559415 19-Dec-2011 00:08

RGP: I've installed a few of these - have had no problem with them. No EPG but hey, for $30 they're good value and can be hidden behind the tv, great for a wall mounted flatscreen.

What about remote control to change channels, how does that work?

Opinions are my own and not the views of my employer.

1 | 2