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#168471 15-Mar-2015 10:31
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Google have said that both having SSL is beneficial and that having a fast website is beneficial. I'm trying to work out the best tradeoff for both SEO and user experience.

One of my (very) small business websites runs on Wordpress on HostGator in the USA. Currently it sits behind CloudFlare free, which gives it a poorly functioning SSL. You can go to the root website on https, but images don't load and because the web server isn't set up to respond to https requests (that may just be my hosts file hotlink protection). The links to other pages are http not https, which could be because of the template I use, or Wordpress. So in effect the text of my front page is SSL, but nothing else. However it is fast - the whole site (including 74 resources, image heavy) loads in 1.9 seconds, probably because many of the resources are served out of Cloudflare in NZ.

Site performance (from webpagetest.org)
Cloudflare: 1.9s to load, 0.9s to redisplay
Direct to the US: 8.6s to load, 3.2s to redisplay

I could get an SSL certificate and have it installed for a small amount of money, but CloudFlare wouldn't work as it's not worth paying the significant monthly fee for this website. That would mean traffic goes direct to the US, or paying for another CDN that has an NZ or maybe Aussie node. I have done it with AWS Cloudfront before, the costs are relatively reasonable, but it's Sydney based not NZ. A CDN for an https site may be more expensive - though the website traffic is 1GB on a busy month so not much traffic

Thoughts? Should I go for
1) Website on Cloudflare with poor SSL, cheap
2) Website in the US with SSL, no CDN, cheap
3) Website in US with SSL, AWS Cloudfront as CDN (should be cheap enough)
4) Website in US, another CDN (suggestions), costs unknown

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  #1259597 15-Mar-2015 10:55
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Have you tried using the Wordpress HTTPS plugin? I'm surprised the images aren't loading through Cloudflare..



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  #1259608 15-Mar-2015 11:27
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Actually most images are loaded through //www.website.co.nz which indicates they should load using the pages protocol. The problem is the gallery plugin uses http links, which are blocked on secure sites unless the user allows them. Many links though are absolute to the http site.

I tried that plugin, no help really. I think my theme is really made to be served over http, though I suspect I could force the whole site to be over https.

Anyway, that's an aside, my main question is big picture, performance vs SSL vs cost I guess.

I just did the calculation for AWS Cloudfront: that much traffic would cost me 40c per month so long as I didn't need a custom SSL certificate, which is $600/month. Server Name Indication means I shouldn't have to. It would just take a bit of configuration and tweaking to have everything served over ssl via cloudfront,. Then the only problem would be getting Wordpress to play ball.

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  #1259825 15-Mar-2015 19:56
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Don't blame Cloudflare then. It's a problem with the plugin in use.

As for SSL certs, you don't have to use one from Cloudflare. I use a RapidSSL cert (buying from SSL2Buy makes it under US$100) on Geekzone. Switch to Cloudflare Pro (US$20/month) and enable SSL. Done. 






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  #1259842 15-Mar-2015 20:28
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I didn't blame Cloudflare, I just mentioned the SSL isn't working well as it is right now. It's Wordpress, a theme, or a plugin. It's not worth $20 a month to me to do this.

I may look at CloudFront with SSL using SNI. It'd cost me about $1/month to use it as CDN/proxy. It seems to be outlined here, though it's set up as a subdomain not as the main domain. I know CloudFront can server web pages, I just have to look into exactly how to configure things.

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  #1259843 15-Mar-2015 20:32
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Interesting, it seems there's an option for SSL even on the free plans now: https://www.cloudflare.com/ssl 




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  #1259846 15-Mar-2015 20:41
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Yeah I know, that's the bit that kinda works. Wordpress is making links to the http version of the site even when it's served from https, I'd have to look into how to change that. Plus images aren't displaying, I think it's as the links are http not https and a browser won't display insecure images on secure sites. I also think something in my .htaccess file is affecting it but I'll need to do some research.

It's possible with a bit of tweaking I can get the website working on https using Cloudflare free by tweaking wordpress :)

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