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NPCtom

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#249108 25-Apr-2019 23:11

I currently have a dedicated server based in Australia that is costing me $200 a month and was wondering what other people's opinions are on dedicated servers and web hosts in New Zealand are.

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#2225156 26-Apr-2019 06:28

Do you own the server, or is it a virtual server you rent by the month? Is your traffic mostly to NZ? Have you considered cloud - AWS / Azure? Cloud can be cheaper servers, but bandwidth can be higher. If your load goes up and down it can be economic.

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#2225166 26-Apr-2019 07:07

What's the use / spec of the of the server?

You're not going to find a provider with cheaper dedicated servers in NZ than AU. With Azure, AWS, GCP, Alicloud & OVH in Australia you can get some pretty competitive pricing where as NZ providers don't have the economy of scale the big players do.

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#2225168 26-Apr-2019 07:21

$200 per month for 1U is about the going price here.

Firstly, define what you want. There are a lot of ISP's in NZ with very different levels of competence and integrity (or lack of). Some are good, some are OK and some I wouldn't touch. And how high profile they are is not a good measure of anything.

Some things to think about-

1. Do you need access to the server? If yes, you will likely need to do a deal yourself with the likes of Data Centre 220 and pay an ISP separately for your connection. This will cost you more but offer better security over your hardware. Keep in mind if you co-locate with a 3rd party who places your equipment in a data centre, the DC will treat your gear as if it was the ISP's if they don't pay the bill.

2. How much bandwidth or traffic do you need?

3. Do you need IP address resources or do you have your own portable ones?

4. Do you need IPv6 connectivity? I would strongly recommend this is a "must have" on your list.

In the past I have been in the position of looking for co-location. What I have taken from this the most important aspect is the personal one. Do they take the time and effort to understand your needs and does their proposal/quote respond to this? Or do they just send you a C&P a week later which doesn't deal with what you said? Are they positive and easy to deal with or do they talk like clients are too much hassle? Do they return your call quickly or do you have to chase them up?

All of these are indicators you should pay attention to. How they are at day-1 will make a big difference when you have your website, email, etc reliant on them.

I hope this helps.

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#2225177 26-Apr-2019 07:57

From another thread, I guess you are in Palmy?

Highly recommend talking to Brad at Advantage computers. They have a great facility here in town. We buy VM's off them, but they do colo and dedicated servers as required too. Their colo rates are quite competitive, not sure what their dedicated servers cost though. Certainly not the cheapest in the country, but you know your server is only a ten minute drive away and they are well connected in terms of redundancy.

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#2225179 26-Apr-2019 08:00

chevrolux:

From another thread, I guess you are in Palmy?

InspireNet and Advantage are pretty much the options in Palmerston North. InspireNet is one of the ISP's we use. I can't speak for their colocation though.

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NPCtom

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#2225189 26-Apr-2019 08:29

MichaelNZ:

chevrolux:

From another thread, I guess you are in Palmy?

InspireNet and Advantage are pretty much the options in Palmerston North. InspireNet is one of the ISP's we use. I can't speak for their colocation though.

Yep from Palmy. I was thinking Advantage. But I thought InspireNet had daily outages? I am kind of needing something based in Auckland.

NPCtom

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#2225191 26-Apr-2019 08:33

Andib:

What's the use / spec of the of the server?

You're not going to find a provider with cheaper dedicated servers in NZ than AU. With Azure, AWS, GCP, Alicloud & OVH in Australia you can get some pretty competitive pricing where as NZ providers don't have the economy of scale the big players do.

I always had a feeling Australia would be cheaper than NZ.

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#2225192 26-Apr-2019 08:35

NPCtom:

Yep from Palmy. I was thinking Advantage. But I thought InspireNet had daily outages? I am kind of needing something based in Auckland.

InspireNet definately does not have that issue. As a techo who is reliant on the internet I would have noticed it. Furthermore, their support staff are competent and easy to deal with.

So I would recommend them for a xDSL or UFB connection.

In regards to colo - I know they do it but my experience has been it's not a strong point for them. Technically they are probably OK but you could be waiting a few days to get a proposal and their setup fee was quite costly, I recall.

For Auckland I would suggest you look at DataCentre220 and contact some of the ISP's listed here

Vetta is my other ISP and they are good. Give Shaun a call.

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#2225193 26-Apr-2019 08:39

NPCtom:

MichaelNZ:

chevrolux:

From another thread, I guess you are in Palmy?

InspireNet and Advantage are pretty much the options in Palmerston North. InspireNet is one of the ISP's we use. I can't speak for their colocation though.

Yep from Palmy. I was thinking Advantage. But I thought InspireNet had daily outages? I am kind of needing something based in Auckland.

Inspire have their own fibre around town (and half way around the lower north island for that matter). Their metro network rocks for WAN's - super low latency. They had a large outage a couple weeks back, but other than that, are pretty dam solid.

220 Queen would be the go in Auckland for basic colo. A mix of good pricing and connectivity options. Then there is Datacom for your more "premium" options.

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#2225194 26-Apr-2019 08:40

Depending on how far down the rabbit hole you want to go, You could look at running your node.js apps as Azure Functions which would eliminate the need for a VM/Server

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#2225196 26-Apr-2019 08:44

Andib:

Depending on how far down the rabbit hole you want to go, You could look at running your node.js apps as Azure Functions which would eliminate the need for a VM/Server

I quite like running my Node.js apps on an AWS EC2 instance as it is usually free (depending how much bandwidth I use) and can move it around the world.

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#2225237 26-Apr-2019 09:04

EC2 isn't free. You can get a year of free tier, but after that you pay for it.

If you only need a single server then AWS Lightsail is MUCH cheaper than EC2, particularly for bandwidth. I once worked out what you get for about $10 on Lightsail you would pay hundreds or thousands for on EC2.

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#2225238 26-Apr-2019 09:05

timmmay:

EC2 isn't free. You can get a year of free tier, but after that you pay for it.

If you only need a single server then AWS Lightsail is MUCH cheaper than EC2, particularly for bandwidth. I once worked out what you get for about $10 on Lightsail you would pay hundreds or thousands for on EC2.

I'll check Lightsail out if it is much cheaper. I have multiple AWS accounts to keep it free.