Hmmmm. Here we go.

Well, with all the money they "saved", I'm sure they will be passing that right on by way of reduced fees to everyone.. 

LOL 

networkn:

 

Well, with all the money they "saved", I'm sure they will be passing that right on by way of reduced fees to everyone.. 

 

 

 

LOL 

 

 

 

Yeah right :) They might bump up the fees to cover the migration costs :D

It costs a lot of money to adopt Devon’s, if you want to do Devon’s properly.

Devon's or Devops?

networkn:

 

Well, with all the money they "saved", I'm sure they will be passing that right on by way of reduced fees to everyone.. 

 

 

 

LOL 

 

It will save them money on long-term.. but it is still a very big investment, not to mention the (new) personal they'll have to hire/train to have GCP knowledge.

... so don't expect fee savings :P

freitasm:

 

Devon's or Devops?

 

Stupid autocorrect and stupid writer. Devop’s.

BlinkyBill:

 

freitasm:

 

Devon's or Devops?

 

 

Stupid autocorrect and stupid writer. Devop’s.

Don't you mean Site Reliability Engineering? :)

michaelmurfy:

 

Don't you mean Site Reliability Engineering? :)

 

you make a good point. The Trademe guy mentioned investing, or moving to, devop’s. But maybe they should have a look into SRE? I imagine their overall use-case may be more suited to SRE??

I’m not too familiar with SRE, no real experience. But plenty with devop’s and I’ve seen many many devop’s initiative not deliver the benefits sought, due to under-investment. 

with all of these things - ITIL, agile, devop’s, SRE, test-driven design, blah blah, it’s the cultural change that makes the difference.

About time their site has always been bottle necked at night and crappy.

JaseNZ:

 

About time their site has always been bottle necked at night and crappy.

 

It is a ginormous fallacy that moving to ‘the cloud’ (which is just an on-premise(s) that you don’t own) brings performance improvements. If it’s crap on your premises, it’ll be crap on someone else’s premises.

BlinkyBill:

 

It is a ginormous fallacy that moving to ‘the cloud’ (which is just an on-premise(s) that you don’t own) brings performance improvements. If it’s crap on your premises, it’ll be crap on someone else’s premises.

 

+1 for that!

BlinkyBill:

 

JaseNZ:

 

About time their site has always been bottle necked at night and crappy.

 

 

It is a ginormous fallacy that moving to ‘the cloud’ (which is just an on-premise(s) that you don’t own) brings performance improvements. If it’s crap on your premises, it’ll be crap on someone else’s premises.

 

Or that it will be cheaper.

freitasm:

 

BlinkyBill:

 

It is a ginormous fallacy that moving to ‘the cloud’ (which is just an on-premise(s) that you don’t own) brings performance improvements. If it’s crap on your premises, it’ll be crap on someone else’s premises.

 

 

Or that it will be cheaper.

 

At TradeMe's scale it might actually be cheaper, though they would be one of a very few NZ businesses big enough for that.

What it does do is shift very significant costs from TradeMe's capital account (CAPEX) to the revenue/operational account (OPEX) as they are now renting capacity instead of buying it. Depending on how an organisation is set up, and how easy or difficult it is get big lumps of CAPEX, this can be a big influencer on a decision to "go cloud".

An unfortunate aspect of this from the "NZ Inc" point of view is that TradeMe have now effectively offshored their principal IT infrastructure. A small number of jobs, and the profits from selling, transporting and maintaining hardware, and the profits from selling electricity have therefore also been offshored. Probably none of these are big ticket items, but it's a nett transfer of NZ economic activity to Australia and the USA.

PolicyGuy:

 

At TradeMe's scale it might actually be cheaper, though they would be one of a very few NZ businesses big enough for that.

 

What it does do is shift very significant costs from TradeMe's capital account (CAPEX) to the revenue/operational account (OPEX) as they are now renting capacity instead of buying it. Depending on how an organisation is set up, and how easy or difficult it is get big lumps of CAPEX, this can be a big influencer on a decision to "go cloud".

 

Exactly the point. Not all companies will benefit of "cloud for cloud-sake" in terms of cost, although with current business environment it might end up being an imperative.