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kingdragonfly

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#289372 2-Sep-2021 09:38
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In 30 years I've used a lot of help desk systems, and time trackers.

The worst, without any doubt is a cloud based product called "Clickup"

Advertised as "one app to replace them all"

"An all-in-one suite to manage people, projects, and everything in between. Start for free! Stop switching between multiple tools. With ClickUp, manage everything in one platform. Amazing"

it's saying should be "the help desk system for masochists"

Our company has hired a full-time person solely dedicated to supporting this system, and even after a year, she continues to configure it. She provides hours of training to every new employee, and every two weeks gives extended demos to the company trying to explain how to use it. I still struggle to do even basic tasks, like figure out what tasks I've charged time against.

For instance, I started a helpdesk request yesterday late and started a time clock against it. For not the first time, I shut down my computer, only to find the clock is still running. The task has been resolved by someone else, yet the clock keeps ticking.

Unfortunately I can see a little clock icon running, but it only show you the description when you hover over it, not the ticket number. The ticket has disappeared for all the lists I can see. As mentioned, I don't have a report that shows what I've clocked against, so I can't adjust my 20 hour charge against it.

Sfter many attempts on many pages, using a word in the description, I eventually find the task. By all appearances I haven't charged any time. Once I stop the clock then my time appears, and I can edit it.

When I look through the notes on a task, it's collapses the comment seemingly at random using different kinds of flyouts. It also truncates the page if there are more than a few until you scroll to the top, and the bottom. I wind up scrolling up and down, forcing it to load all comments, then looking for the multiple ways it's collapsed it, so I can figure out what I need to do.

Every interaction with Clickup is just insane.

I get a list of notifications of tickets, but no indication of ones that are resolved, so I have to open each ticket individually

Even entering notes drives me crazy. If I hit the "Enter" key it sends it, so I have to remember to hit "Shift" "Enter" to enter a second line. Plus the auto-formatting drive me insane.

Instead of Clickup doing one thing well, it tries to do everything horribly.

Even trying to navigate their sales website is a nightmare.

Avoid for you own sanity.

See Sunk cost fallacy

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  #2770447 2-Sep-2021 09:53
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I've had service desks under my management umbrella for a number of years and I've never heard of this.  That probably says all I need to know about it 😂




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  #2770449 2-Sep-2021 09:59
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Last company ran Salesforce for ticketing and holy shit.  Unless you have a team dedicated to improving it, and rewriting everything every 6 months of each release STAY AWAY.

 

Salesforce is absolutely the worst platform I've ever used.  They have really good marketing and fluff to lure in C levels to buy it(they throw a lot of money and expensive trips to our execs to get them to buy in) but that's at an eye-watering price for a bare minimum product that is just plain crap.  It also attracts the most mediocre untechnical people who pose as 'consultants' who probably previously worked in tubberware sales and move onto the next 'big thing', its all just one big cycle of mediocrity.

 

Stay away


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  #2770456 2-Sep-2021 10:08
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We use zendesk seems to work for our limited need.

 

School with 1400 students 140 odd Teachers and 6 ICT and database support people (and another 8 people acting as agents)







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  #2770463 2-Sep-2021 10:20
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We use FreshService, fantastic wee tool, simply yet powerful, easy to configure, easy to update, and VERY easy to use.


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  #2770470 2-Sep-2021 10:36
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Current employer just migrated from Zen Desk to Service Now, have also used Zoho, SCSM, Track-IT, Service Desk Plus, Servicecamp and others I can't remember right now.. I don't think any of them are great, it's just the degree of suck varies.





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  #2770477 2-Sep-2021 10:48
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We use Cherwell, it does a pretty good job and can customise just about everything in it


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  #2770505 2-Sep-2021 11:36
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Never heard of it and I've been working on service desks forever :D

 

Its not good when you have to hire someone JUST to support the support system. I'd being going back to the vendor and having serious words and looking for an alternative, fast.

 

 

 

 





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  #2770602 2-Sep-2021 14:04
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I don't think any of the systems around really offer everything, or do it all well, so you almost need to pick the one that ticks the most boxes - very rarely have I found an organisation that can get one that fits everything they need well.

 

Personally, I like the Atlassian products, so Jira Service Management in the context of a help desk platform. Zendesk is pretty good, too.

 

Some, like HEAT, ServiceNow, and Cherwell, I find take so much effort to run, maintain, and use, that people end up not using them well.

 

 

 

DjShadow:

 

We use Cherwell, it does a pretty good job and can customise just about everything in it

 

 

 

 

You have my deepest sympathy...

 

 

 

 


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  #2770608 2-Sep-2021 14:08
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blackjack17:

 

We use zendesk seems to work for our limited need.

 

School with 1400 students 140 odd Teachers and 6 ICT and database support people (and another 8 people acting as agents)

 

 

Just thought I would add zendesk doesn't seem to like it if you are both an agent and a client (or it could be our set up).  I occasionally get weird little issues.





  #2770721 2-Sep-2021 17:26
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My previous employer also implemented FreshService last year, both as an internal IT Help Desk and also as a case/job management system for public customer issues and incidents.


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  #2770800 2-Sep-2021 20:21
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Inphinity: ... Personally, I like the Atlassian products, so Jira Service Management in the context of a help desk platform. ...

 

Their Service Management web based interface feels fast enough & I'm pretty sure our set up is sub-optimal, but...

 

  • I'm not willing to pay those prices
  • Their markdown syntax seems different to EVERYTHING else I've seen out there
  • Their JQL for querying the DB has quirks even for basic queries. Thank good I don't have to do any advanced stuff
  • The add-ons can be expensive as well & then the JQL can't access the data in those add-ons directly ...
  • Table display issues in Jira

Meh, no thanks.

 

 

 

Edit: Added table display issue

 

 





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  #2770839 2-Sep-2021 22:22
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I’ve used this before and loved it. along with their other tools https://www.manageengine.com/help-desk-software.html




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  #2771239 3-Sep-2021 12:37
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Lias: ... I don't think any of them are great, it's just the degree of suck varies.

 

Reading the above comments, that seems to be the most accurate statement in this thread.

 

 

 

Maybe start a new thread asking for recommendations of requirements in a replacement HD system?

 

 





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