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#306778 21-Aug-2023 08:20
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Hi All

After some local advice.

My code signing certificate is up for renewal in November so I figured I’d get onto it early. I must’ve missed the new requirements as since June/July you need a physical token to store the certificate. With all the requirement changes the prices have jumped significantly.

Seems like there are two options.

1. Get a fips Yubikey (which seems to be out of stock everywhere) and get a certificate the hard way
2. Pay an extra US$115-200 for a certificate and key

Anybody else gone through this recently?

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  #3118411 21-Aug-2023 09:49
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Yikes, following with interest.





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  #3118415 21-Aug-2023 09:55
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Are to share a link to what you're referencing here?





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  #3118431 21-Aug-2023 10:32
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I'm a geek, a gamer, a dad and an IT Professional. I have a full rack home lab, size 15 feet, an epic beard and Asperger's. I'm a bit of a Cypherpunk, who believes information wants to be free and the Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.




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  #3118440 21-Aug-2023 11:12
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Lias:

 

https://knowledge.digicert.com/alerts/code-signing-changes-in-2023.html

 

 

Yep thats it but to summarise;

 

     

  1. From June 2023 you have to store code signing certs on a physical device - etoken/yubikey/HMS
  2. Some cert vendors will only sell you a cert with a physical device (for an additional ~USD$120)
  3. The price has jumped significantly (cheapest I can find is $400-500 USD)
  4. Some vendors will let you use your own device while some dont
  5. Some vendors offer a cloud service but this is something like US$20 per month for limited signing and this is in addition to the the cert cost.

 

RE #4 this seems to be fraught with issues, while it can be done one video I watched the creator said to just pay the extra $120 as support is difficult if doing it DIY

 

Oh and as mentioned I dont know if this change has resulted in a supply issue but I cant find any local suppliers with stock of the FIPS yubikeys.


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  #3118455 21-Aug-2023 11:29
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I need to understand how that's going to work with VMs.. how exactly is a physical token meant to be used when the code is built on a VM...





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  #3118467 21-Aug-2023 12:23
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Lias:

 

I need to understand how that's going to work with VMs.. how exactly is a physical token meant to be used when the code is built on a VM...

 

 

Yup thats a common question thats come up. Some sites sugest doing pass through etc.

 

I did see some mention of using Azure Keyvault but I dont know how realistic that is.

 

EDIT: The Azure Keyvault option only worked prior to the need for physical storage.


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  #3160579 17-Nov-2023 14:59
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Sorry to revive this topic. My renewal was up and luckily I stumbled across SSL Trust (in Oz). They offer Verokey code signing certs which are about half the price of Comodo etc.

 

Ended up being about NZ$800 for 3 year cert and shipped USB Token.

 

https://www.ssltrust.com.au/ssl-certificates/code-signing

 

The org validation was much more fluid than last time too.

 

Now to figure out how to use this USB cert store thing...




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  #3160615 17-Nov-2023 15:19
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We ended up using Azure Keyvault, you just need to pay for Premium rather than Standard to get HSM support.





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  #3160618 17-Nov-2023 15:22
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Lias:

 

We ended up using Azure Keyvault, you just need to pay for Premium rather than Standard to get HSM support.

 

 

Good to know!

 

 


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