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#67735 7-Sep-2010 20:36

Hi there,

as part of my university studies i have decided to research in the virtualization area, i wanted to some help in constructing few research questions. reason i posted here is because i know some people are in similar industry or company's which have adapted virtualization and may have some thoughts about how good/bad this technology is progressing.

Thanks.

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#377681 7-Sep-2010 21:33

What kind of questions?

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#377700 7-Sep-2010 22:22

freitasm: What kind of questions?

questions that arise when you think of virtualization in computing. or something in this area that you think you could Exploratory research.

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#383854 24-Sep-2010 00:29

gumdigger: Hi there,

as part of my university studies i have decided to research in the virtualization area, i wanted to some help in constructing few research questions. reason i posted here is because i know some people are in similar industry or company's which have adapted virtualization and may have some thoughts about how good/bad this technology is progressing.

Thanks.

I'm going to put this out there, you're studying a new field, generally speaking the process would be to familiarise yourself with the basics (Google: virtualisation basics, virtualisation platforms, virtualisation software) and then formulate some questions that you might think useful for some different implementations or even industries, then come here and ask us what we think of them, and what we would further suggest.

This way, you learn more, we can help point you in the right direction, and ultimately you've taken responsibility for your research and further studies.

So, a little more detail please, and I'm sure there'll be plenty of people who will help :)

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#383920 24-Sep-2010 09:29

scottlilly:
gumdigger: Hi there,

as part of my university studies i have decided to research in the virtualization area, i wanted to some help in constructing few research questions. reason i posted here is because i know some people are in similar industry or company's which have adapted virtualization and may have some thoughts about how good/bad this technology is progressing.

Thanks.

I'm going to put this out there, you're studying a new field, generally speaking the process would be to familiarise yourself with the basics (Google: virtualisation basics, virtualisation platforms, virtualisation software) and then formulate some questions that you might think useful for some different implementations or even industries, then come here and ask us what we think of them, and what we would further suggest.

This way, you learn more, we can help point you in the right direction, and ultimately you've taken responsibility for your research and further studies.

So, a little more detail please, and I'm sure there'll be plenty of people who will help :)

Thanks

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#403593 11-Nov-2010 20:25

Hi there
it seems Desktop virtualization has a long history, since the mainframe days where 1 computer did the thinking for people sitting on different terminals.

when we say Virtual PC - we think vmware workstation, virtual box etc.

but i am not able to put together the type of products that make up hosted desktop virtualization. where instances of virtual machines are stored on servers and users access them to work on them, then what is thinclient, isnt thinclient associated with virtualization also?

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#406598 19-Nov-2010 09:39

Could be an interesting field - one thing as a tester that interests me is performance impacts of virtualisation

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#406636 19-Nov-2010 10:39

gumdigger: Hi there
it seems Desktop virtualization has a long history, since the mainframe days where 1 computer did the thinking for people sitting on different terminals.

when we say Virtual PC - we think vmware workstation, virtual box etc.

but i am not able to put together the type of products that make up hosted desktop virtualization. where instances of virtual machines are stored on servers and users access them to work on them, then what is thinclient, isnt thinclient associated with virtualization also?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtualization

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_client

The short version - a thin client is an access mechanism to a computer or mainframe that does all of the actual processing and sends the output to the thin client.

In virtualisation, the hardware behind the scenes actually pretends to be something completely different. Ie. 1x big server could pretend to be 4x little servers and 8x workstations.

I guess the concepts are similar, but their actual setup behind-the-scenes is very different.

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#406853 19-Nov-2010 17:47

does anyone know of or used any "hosted desktop virtualization" products from known vendors such as vmware, citrix

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#406968 20-Nov-2010 00:19

I've used VMware View, was a while ago and it was pretty good and surprisingly fast. There is a fair bit of movement in this area with VMware's project origami which focuses around management and single sign on etc which is pretty neat too.

I haven't tried Citrix's HDX I think they call it but that is supposed to be pretty decent too, although then you need to drink the Citrix cool-ade and use all of their other products too.

Have just done an office desktop refresh but when the three year lease on the hardware is up and MS sorts out their licensing of virtual desktops it will be an pretty obvious choice in 3 years time.

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#407015 20-Nov-2010 09:37

In the Mircosoft world, one has terminal server, remote desktop, hyper-v, App-V and Med-V as technologies in the virtual space.

From a technology point, a thing to look at is I/O throughput which can be a sticking point between VMing an application or leaving it on dedicated tin.

In the enterprise space, it is also likely to find VM setups working along side complex SAN setups as well, so storage solutions could be considered a part of the virtualisation solution.

From a research point of view, I would also take the time to learn how the Intel/Amd processesors work with regards to virtualisation as well.

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#407678 22-Nov-2010 14:11

with such technologies in place I wonder how organizations manage them, I saw a video on how a virtual machine/s are setup on xendesktop vs vmview and not once did they mention anything about management. how does user management or monitoring or event logging work for each virtual machine installed in the data centers or servers within the organization. Do they use third party management utilities to do this? I suppose people who have used would know

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#407977 23-Nov-2010 08:31

Have you thought of looking at virtualisation of the back end server infrastructure for larger systems - Air NZ are heavy into virtualisation as are IRD and Telecom

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#408555 23-Nov-2010 21:27

gumdigger: with such technologies in place I wonder how organizations manage them, I saw a video on how a virtual machine/s are setup on xendesktop vs vmview and not once did they mention anything about management. how does user management or monitoring or event logging work for each virtual machine installed in the data centers or servers within the organization. Do they use third party management utilities to do this? I suppose people who have used would know

For microsoft technologies, System Center is [one of] the management tools. I assume that VMWare would have an equiv.

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#414090 7-Dec-2010 15:51

VMware has vCenter Server (and Client). XenServer (Citrix) has XenCenter (just a client).

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#414094 7-Dec-2010 15:53

ScottStevensNZ: Have you thought of looking at virtualisation of the back end server infrastructure for larger systems - Air NZ are heavy into virtualisation as are IRD and Telecom

IMHO, a very nice field to be in. (guess what I do for a living! ;)

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