Has piracy REALLY been halved?

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#661059 24-Jul-2012 15:06

kyhwana2: I just switched to using a seedbox that I share with 6-7 other people. So no, it hasn't. ;)

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A handful I know use VPN's but most use seedboxes.. A couple of really paranoid people I know use both ;-)

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#661066 24-Jul-2012 15:18

These are the prices that various organizations think they should be from the link below

Telecom: Called for the fee to be raised to $104

Copyright Licensing Ltd (represents authors): Fees should be "zero, or less than $2"

Publishers' Association: "Zero or less than $2"

New Zealand Open Source Society: $25 or more

Institute of Information Technology Professionals: Keep at $25

Vodafone: $25 - too soon to move from "status quo"

Australian Performing Right Association: "There should be no fee"

Creative Freedom: Suggests raising fee to $30

Tuanz: No change 范to $25 fee

New Zealand Telecommunications Forum: Would prefer fee raised to $40

TelstraClear: $32.64 plus fixed costs of compliance

Copyright Council of New Zealand: "Zero, or less than $2"

New Zealand Society of Authors: $2

NZfact: "Just pennies"

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/7338332/File-sharing-has-dropped-researcher-says

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#661091 24-Jul-2012 15:40

It is foolish of Government who think they can mandate ISPs to block entire websites. The internet protocol suite was designed to address routing of data in an inherently unreliable infrastructure given the transmission medium.

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#661099 24-Jul-2012 16:03

IMO, of the rights holders want to enforce their copyright, then they should be allowed to. If they want some other party to enforce their copyright, then they need to pay them at least the cost of doing it.
It shouldn?t be regulated at all IMO. If ISPs want to offer a service where they help rights holders enforce their rights, then they should be free to charge what they like for that service. If the ISPs don?t want to offer such a service, then tough to the rights holders. They need to come up with another way of enforcing their copyright.

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#661111 24-Jul-2012 16:25

With many people moving their torrents to 100/1000mb boxes in other countries as opposed to 800k up ADSL, if anything the spread of knowledge has increased.

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#661119 24-Jul-2012 16:41

Challenge accepted...

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#661127 24-Jul-2012 16:52

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/7338332/File-sharing-has-dropped-researcher-says

Hahahahahaha! Data sourced from Peer Media Technologies.

"Audience Measurement: Geo-locates and tracks global demand by initiated downloads on top P2P networks: BitTorrent, eDonkey and Ares."

So they have used IP geo-location on public p2p networks to determine the level of copyright infringement in New Zealand.

I would be interested to see Peer Media Technologies' reports in this area. It would seem that establishing that a file is actually infringing copyright in the first place would be the main challenge. I wonder how they do that?

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#661158 24-Jul-2012 18:07

Regardless how it is arrived at I cannot remember hearing a more pointless statistic than "piracy halved" in this context.

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#661164 24-Jul-2012 18:17

Lias:
kyhwana2: I just switched to using a seedbox that I share with 6-7 other people. So no, it hasn't. ;)

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A handful I know use VPN's but most use seedboxes.. A couple of really paranoid people I know use both ;-)

Hells yea! Seedbox in Luxembourg and then VPN in to the seedbox to transfer files to local server. Maybe a little bit paranoid but you never know these days lol

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#661168 24-Jul-2012 18:29

So is that down from 80% of people breaking the law?

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#661170 24-Jul-2012 18:32

I certainly don't feel the need to pirate music now that I have spotify.

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#661205 24-Jul-2012 19:16

I don't see any reason to pirate music in New Zealand. There are almost as many streaming services here as there are anywhere in the world (Pandora, anyone?) and enough sources of cheap downloadable music that there's no point in stealing it (and yes, that's how I'd class it).

TV on the other hand... that's a whole other concept.

They need to understand how giving customers what they want has been good for the music industry and follow suit. I've bought more music since getting a phone/internet connection that works than I have since I was a teenager. It's easy and I'm not fussed by paying $1.29 or whatever it is. I've yet to not find the song I was looking for...

That's how you solve the copyright problem, NZ Fact, not by criminalising your customer base.

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#661207 24-Jul-2012 19:19

What I can't get is that they say its dropped by 40%, but they are not happy. ????

Then they want the $25 ISP cost to be $2???

Given the billions they say is lost to piracy, and they cannot or will not afford $25???

I smell a rat.

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#661208 24-Jul-2012 19:21

Sure, but weren't the three souls caught downloading... music?

Yes, there's Pandora, Rdio, Spotify for streaming. There's iTunes, Telecom Music Store, Vodafone Music Store and more.

But folks miss the main point: people will still get the free stuff even if cheap access is available. Because they can and because their sense of entitlement is bigger than their reasoning powers...

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#661212 24-Jul-2012 19:23

Linuxluver: ....or is it now just being done via means other than bit torrent?

Based on my experience on my own social circles, I'd suggest it is definitely dropping!

I've got friends ditching iTunes and normal mp3 services by the day in favor of Spotify (half my facebook are on it!).

I don't know about video though?

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