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  #422032 28-Dec-2010 09:37
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sbiddle: The XT Samsung will only give limited 3G coverage on Vodafone since it doesn't support the 900MHz 3G frequency that Vodafone use outside all Cities.




As I said above I haven't had any problems with a 850/2100  used on Voda/2D  on 3G.  What i have found is that if there is no 3G on 2100 then  there's a 99% chance of no GSM as well..




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  #422037 28-Dec-2010 09:56
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sbiddle: The XT Samsung will only give limited 3G coverage on Vodafone since it doesn't support the 900MHz 3G frequency that Vodafone use outside all Cities.




As I said above I haven't had any problems with a 850/2100  used on Voda/2D  on 3G.  What i have found is that if there is no 3G on 2100 then  there's a 99% chance of no GSM as well..


I don't understand what you mean by this.

Vodafone use 2100 3G in all cities along with some towns and tourist destinations around the country. This equates to around 70% of the total population.

Outside this (ie the entire rest of the country) 3G coverage is all 900Mhz 3G. This 900 3G coverage essentially replicates (and even exceeds in some places) the 900 GSM coverage. On a total land mass % (from memory) Vodafone's 900 covers around 70% of it's total network coverage vs 30% for 2100MHz 3G.

If you don't have a phone that does 900 3G and leave a city you'll get stuck with GPRS.

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  #422090 28-Dec-2010 12:52
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Exactly the same performance as any 900/2100 handset since vodafone dont have any 900MHz 3g anywhere useful. Go to their coverage map and only tick 3g excented and you will see that its only in places in the middle of nowhere.

Till vodafone commit to a timetable to fix urban 3g by using 900MHz for it, dont bother getting a handset that does it over one you prefer that doesnt unless you are likly to find yourself stuck out the back of beyond, since chances are by the time they do you will have moved on again. I have been using a 2730 which is 900MHz and nowhere have I found myself with 3g but a friend on an iPhone 3gs did not have it until leaving civilization.




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  #422102 28-Dec-2010 13:27
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I have to agree with steve get a 900 mhz device if you're using voda/2d.

When you're trying to use nav/maps 'in the middle of nowhere' you'll appreciate 3g coverage

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  #422105 28-Dec-2010 13:51
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The thing is I don't intend to use 3G wireless internet much at all (rather, I will use wifi for internet) - and also I spend little time out of the urban areas with 2100 MHz 3G coverage anyway. 

But am I right in assuming that I'll have no issue with standard phone calls and texting using the Galaxy on Vodafone or 2 degrees? (Sorry, I know little about mobile phone networks.)

If that's the case, surely it will be ok to go with the Galaxy?

While it's $40 more, others have argued above it is a superior phone to the 845.

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  #422111 28-Dec-2010 14:03
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Samsung will be fine for calls and texts on voda's 2g network

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  #422112 28-Dec-2010 14:03
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Without a 900MHz UMTS network to fall back to, the 900MHz radio in the others will never get used, whereas with an 850MHz one you can always change to telecom and get reliable inbuilding 3g performance in those hard to cover buildings like food alley on albert street. nothing is more annoying than having a page load and seeing that H turn into a G and nothing happen.

This may change once vodafone wake up and stop selling obsolete GSM handsets and providing service for them.




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  #422145 28-Dec-2010 15:51
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sbiddle:
old3eyes:
sbiddle: The XT Samsung will only give limited 3G coverage on Vodafone since it doesn't support the 900MHz 3G frequency that Vodafone use outside all Cities.




As I said above I haven't had any problems with a 850/2100  used on Voda/2D  on 3G.  What i have found is that if there is no 3G on 2100 then  there's a 99% chance of no GSM as well..


I don't understand what you mean by this.

Vodafone use 2100 3G in all cities along with some towns and tourist destinations around the country. This equates to around 70% of the total population.

Outside this (ie the entire rest of the country) 3G coverage is all 900Mhz 3G. This 900 3G coverage essentially replicates (and even exceeds in some places) the 900 GSM coverage. On a total land mass % (from memory) Vodafone's 900 covers around 70% of it's total network coverage vs 30% for 2100MHz 3G.

If you don't have a phone that does 900 3G and leave a city you'll get stuck with GPRS.



That isn't my experience with 2100 3G, Loose 2100 bad and also loose GSM.  Tauranga is a perfect example of this situation..

It's rather academic now as  at work we have been given Samsung Galaxy 3 (i5800) that do 900/2100 3G.  Nice fone..




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  #422146 28-Dec-2010 15:53
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richms: Without a 900MHz UMTS network to fall back to, the 900MHz radio in the others will never get used, whereas with an 850MHz one you can always change to telecom and get reliable inbuilding 3g performance in those hard to cover buildings like food alley on albert street. nothing is more annoying than having a page load and seeing that H turn into a G and nothing happen.


This may change once vodafone wake up and stop selling obsolete GSM handsets and providing service for them.


I asked  the guy from Voda when he came round last week with new fones.  GSM will be around for a long time yet as there are allot of none voice uses out there like telemetry  etc..




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