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#61151 10-May-2010 21:26
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JetFlicks!

Best kept secret on Android.

Streaming TV over wifi or 3G. Dozens of current and past popular TV series, with multiple seasons instantly available to be played on your phone.

Cost: US$4.20-ish / month if you pay the single, annual sub. For NZ$6 / month there is a huge array of on-demand content here.

Notes: No ads. Many series are right up to date (Mad Men, Stargate Universe)  while others may be the first several series with the most recent ones / later ones missing (eg: Star trek: Next Generation - first 3 or 4 series only).

I watched all three series of "Mad Men: streaming onto my phone. I'd missed them all.  That alone was worth the annual sub. 


  




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  #328716 10-May-2010 22:05
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Incredible how the application is streaming copyrighted content (in a manner that I'd say is not licensed) but is "locked"... Obviously someone wants really bad to collect subscription money on something that is not theirs to sell (the content).





 

 

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  #328830 11-May-2010 11:15
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freitasm: Incredible how the application is streaming copyrighted content (in a manner that I'd say is not licensed) but is "locked"... Obviously someone wants really bad to collect subscription money on something that is not theirs to sell (the content).


You make the claim as though you know it's true.  

"JetFlicks" is a company who make airline video distribution systems for in-flight entertainment.

Do you KNOW this isn't a legal service? 

I can understand sensitivity to copyright issues, but surely smearing a service provider without evidence surely is also bad?

Entirely separately:  

Copyright and "imaginary property" law is attracting the contempt it deserves from many quarters. Copyright now 95 years in the US...being regularly extended to keep Disney content out of the public domain. The US wants us to adopt the same corrupt laws for any free trade agreement. 

No thanks. 





 





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  #328832 11-May-2010 11:18
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I tried finding any reference of "Jetflicks" as an in-flight entertainment supplier. Linkage please?

As far as I can see this application just use the name "JetFlicks" but I can't see any relation to "Jetflicks" as you claim. I can only find this application in app stores online, not an official page for it. Linkage please?




 

 

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  #328836 11-May-2010 11:23
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Generally: 

http://jetflicks.com/index.php

Specifically: 

See the Mobile app link at lower right. 




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  #328838 11-May-2010 11:26
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I found that page before. But that company is not making in-flight entertainment. And the link to the bottom is to a .mobi site, not an Android mobile app. And the "Phantom Cinema" online store looks like sells movies, not TV series.

I still can't see a link between Jetflicks the Android app and that company, or a company with license to redistribute TV series.





 

 

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  #328850 11-May-2010 11:42
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freitasm: I found that page before. But that company is not making in-flight entertainment. And the link to the bottom is to a .mobi site, not an Android mobile app. And the "Phantom Cinema" online store looks like sells movies, not TV series.

I still can't see a link between Jetflicks the Android app and that company, or a company with license to redistribute TV series.



The "mobi" site is the same one the app goes to.

If you install the app and run it, it puts you on that web page. You then login with your userid and password and you are presented with a web page with many options: Support, Flicks, Vote, Contact...and so on.

But you don't see that page unless you subscribe.

It's common for "apps" to be the front end for web sites which you are then taken to and interact with.

I'm just wondering how you have the confidence to make assumptions about any contractual / business arrangements these people may have.  

I know you state your opinions in a forthright way. But they look like assertions...and in this case there is no way you can know what this company's business arrangements might be. Is there?

They have been offering this service through the Android market for nearly a year. During that year, copyright violators like "iMusic Tao" have been kicked off the market. That app was basically just a spyder crawling the Internet looking for exposed music files on random systems....and finding millions of them. The author calls it a search engine.   




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  #328852 11-May-2010 11:46
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I am saying that because TV distribution is a big business. You can't get Hulu outside the US. You only get TV series on iTunes depending on geo location and limited in offers.

I would be surprised for a small company to have secured distribution deals with studios when even the studios themselves (Hulu is owned by NBC Universal, News Corp., The Walt Disney Company, Providence Equity Partners) can't do it.

So yes, I doubt they have the redistribution rights. And nowhere in their page they assert it. They are actually very sneaky by not having any information about their mobile app in their own page - the distribution is mainly from other sites. As if they didn't want the link to be established.







 

 

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  #328952 11-May-2010 15:15
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freitasm: I am saying that because TV distribution is a big business. You can't get Hulu outside the US. You only get TV series on iTunes depending on geo location and limited in offers.

I would be surprised for a small company to have secured distribution deals with studios when even the studios themselves (Hulu is owned by NBC Universal, News Corp., The Walt Disney Company, Providence Equity Partners) can't do it.

So yes, I doubt they have the redistribution rights. And nowhere in their page they assert it. They are actually very sneaky by not having any information about their mobile app in their own page - the distribution is mainly from other sites. As if they didn't want the link to be established.


Understandable.

On the other hand, they service an audience who in the course of travel probably cross international borders and may have negotiated some kind of exemption due to that. Pure speculation. I don't know.

I paid the money to the web site accessed via the app sold on the Market. They provide me with the content. There is nothing there to indicate it isn't all completely legal.

Not sure how much effort I'm supposed to put into verifying anything / everything I buy is conforming to a license / agreement process or regime I was not party to and have no knowledge of. 
 
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  #328955 11-May-2010 15:18
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Yes, I agree it's hard for the user to know what's kosher or not. The problem is that by buying an application without any licensing in place just fuels the piracy industry, and gives studios and associations more ammunition on their ongoing battler against this kind of commerce.

One thing is personal downloads, another thing is redistribution for profit.

But as you say, I don't know, you don't know.





 

 

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  #328972 11-May-2010 15:44
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The site has scant contact details, just a email address, kind of a internet security 101 no no.

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I did a whois:

Registrant:
   Kristopher Dallmann
   1962 Glistening Sands Dr
   Las Vegas, Nevada 89119
   United States

   Domain Name: JETFLICKS.COM
      Created on: 29-Dec-08
      Expires on: 29-Dec-10
      Last Updated on: 09-May-09

   Administrative Contact:
      Dallmann, Kristopher  
      1962 Glistening Sands Dr
      Las Vegas, Nevada 89119
      United States
      +1.7023437117

   Technical Contact:
      Dallmann, Kristopher  
      1962 Glistening Sands Dr
      Las Vegas, Nevada 89119
      United States
      +1.7023437117      Fax -- 

   Domain servers in listed order:
      NS51.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
      NS52.DOMAINCONTROL.COM


Kristopher has a Facebook page.

The registered address on the whois and Facebook is Las Vegas, Nevada. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a registered entity by the name "Jetflicks Entertainment" on the Nevada registrar. It may mean the business is registered in another state, or even another country. I do think it's strange he registered the website under his personal name if it was a registered entity. So I'm leaning towards the idea the "Jetflicks Entertainment LLC" isn't actually real.

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