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Topic # 66818 24-Aug-2010 09:55
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The story everywhere with respect to the Nexus One is shortage of supply due to lack of availability of the Samsung-sourced AMOLED screens used with the phone. 

Google would have been informed of the coming supply crunch weeks ahead of the wider market....who are largely left to watch the stock run out unless they have been watching the stories in the tech press about component shortages. Google appear to have tried to reserve their remaining stock for developers as the phone is the reference platform for development of Android v3.0. Those have now sold out, too. 

Looking in the rear-vision mirror, it looks like a case can be made for Google having decided to pull the plug on the online store at least in part because they knew they would soon face a supply crunch that would last months.....if it didn't last until the EOL for the phone itself.  

HTC are now building their own screen factory....but that won't provide any real relief for a year or more...and that would be *fast*. In the meantime, they have moved some phones to Super LCD (HTC Desire). 

Make sense? 

Maybe we'll see a Super LCD Nexus One? 




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  Reply # 371984 24-Aug-2010 10:29
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Correction: Samsung are building the new US$2.1B screen factory, which will lift annual screen production capacity from 35 million units to 65 million units. HTC have shifted to SONY's Super LCD. 

 




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  Reply # 371999 24-Aug-2010 11:07
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So, general concensus-wise, is super LCD an improvement over AMOLED or not?

Would be good to know, as i'm looking into a desire at present. 

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  Reply # 372021 24-Aug-2010 11:47
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Wow, does anyone else produce the S-AMOLED screen aside from Samsung? If they only make 35 million units per year currently, then the Samsung Galaxy S must be taking a fair chunk of those. (Reports say Samsung Galaxy S is expected to sell 10 million units by year end)



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  Reply # 372098 24-Aug-2010 13:47
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testing123: So, general concensus-wise, is super LCD an improvement over AMOLED or not?

Would be good to know, as i'm looking into a desire at present. 


We have one of each in the office. Both are HTC Desire, but purchased about 3 weeks apart. One was the last of the AMOLEDs and the other was among the first of the Super LCDs.

The Super LCD guy *loves* his phone.

The AMOLED guy *loves* his phone (but says the SLCD screen isn't as bright as his.

They both look OK to me. :-)  Hard to say.

I'm easily pleased beyond a certain point and both phones exceed that point. 





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  Reply # 372101 24-Aug-2010 13:49
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caldazar: Wow, does anyone else produce the S-AMOLED screen aside from Samsung? If they only make 35 million units per year currently, then the Samsung Galaxy S must be taking a fair chunk of those. (Reports say Samsung Galaxy S is expected to sell 10 million units by year end)


And add to that the Samsung Wave, Beam, Cetus (or whatever the Windows Phone version is) plus possibly the new pad/tablet, I would be surprised if there was anything left for anyone else.




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  Reply # 372105 24-Aug-2010 13:53
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caldazar: Wow, does anyone else produce the S-AMOLED screen aside from Samsung? If they only make 35 million units per year currently, then the Samsung Galaxy S must be taking a fair chunk of those. (Reports say Samsung Galaxy S is expected to sell 10 million units by year end)


And add to that the Samsung Wave, Beam, Cetus (or whatever the Windows Phone version is) plus possibly the new pad/tablet, I would be surprised if there was anything left for anyone else.


Aahh!!! The screen shortage would explain why the Samsung Beam and some other phones have had stealth releases in small markets (Beam is only available in Singapore).  




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  Reply # 372383 24-Aug-2010 21:51
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I didn't know they were shipping the SLCD screens Desires yet? I only got mine a few weeks ago, how do you know if its SLCD, does it say on the box?



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  Reply # 372388 24-Aug-2010 21:59
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TheRich: I didn't know they were shipping the SLCD screens Desires yet? I only got mine a few weeks ago, how do you know if its SLCD, does it say on the box?


A guy I work with got one about 10 days ago. I think he found out it was SLCD when he flashed a ROM on it that didn't have a driver for SLCD and turned it into a Braille phone. It worked perfectly as long as you didn't mind the screen being completely black.

So they rushed off to modaco.com and got an SLCD-capable ROM (after doing some reading)...and flashed that on...and it worked fine. But they had to do the recovery blind, too, as they had flashed a recovery on that also did not support SLCD (Clockwork)...yet. 

I'll ask tomorrow if there is any visual way to tell either from the hardware or the software what the screen is. 
 




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  Reply # 372396 24-Aug-2010 22:14
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"1. Check the box your Desire came with at the section Display: if it states "3.7 inch AMOLED touch-sensitive screen" then you've got an AMOLED display but if it says "3.7-inch touch-sensitive screen" then you've got an SLCD display."

A full list of ways to see is here
http://pocketnow.com/android/how-to-tell-if-your-htc-desire-has-slcd-or-amoled-screen

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