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alisam

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#315421 15-Jul-2024 09:20
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On an old NUC I wiped Windows 10 and installed Ububtu 24.04.

 

I use Moneydance for my home accounts. The data and backups are on a Synology NAS in 2 separate shared folders.

 

To access these 2 folders is easy under windows.

 

Whilst I have dabbled with Linux Mint, I see that Ubuntu no longer needs a third-party app for OneDrive and I have set this up.

 

All my knowledge comes from internet searches, but I am familiar with basic Linux commands e.g. mkdir, chmod etc.

 

So I have used NFS to access the shared folders and these 2 commands will allow me access the data:

 

sudo mount 192.168.1.11:volume1/"Moneydance Data" /mnt/Moneydance_data
sudo mount 192.168.1.11:volume1/"Moneydance Backup" /mnt/Moneydance_backups

 

Now I am trying to allow a boot to set up the above commands.

 

I have tried in /etc/fstab (only 1 to start with)

 

192.168.1.11:volume1/"Moneydance Data" /mnt/Moneydance_data nfs defaults 0 0

 

But the data is not visible.

 

I realise the spaces in the shared folders are a problem which with further work I can rectify, but will have to re-point my windows machines to the new shared folders.

 

PS I read I could use NFS or SMB but decided on NFS after reading pros and cons.





PC: Dell Inspiron 16 5640 (Windows 11 Home), Dell Inspiron 7591 2n1 (Windows 11 Pro), HP ProBook 470G1 (Windows 10 Pro), Intel NUC7I5BNH (Zorin)
Net: Grandstream 1 x GWN7062 Router, 1 x GWN7665 Access Point
Storage: Synology DS216play NAS, 2 x 6TB
Media: 3 x Amazon FireTV. Echo, Dot, Spot
TV: 2 x Samsung H6400 55" LED TV, Panasonic TH-P50G10Z 50" Plasma TV
Mobile: Samsung Galaxy A52 5G
Wearable: Gear S3 Frontier


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Yoban
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  #3259646 15-Jul-2024 11:12
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Hi there - Have you exported the drives?

 

Being a DIYer myself, I have used this tutorial in the past How To Set Up an NFS Mount on Ubuntu 22.04 | DigitalOcean




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  #3259649 15-Jul-2024 11:23
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does

 

sudo mount -av

 

give you any clues? 

 

Hopefully someone else will be able to help, otherwise I'll compare it to my set up when I get home today.





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  #3259656 15-Jul-2024 11:51
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A quick targetted google search suggests that /etc/fstab won't parse spaces inside quotes as you'd expect (which doesn't surprise me in the least).

 

The suggested way forward was to replace spaces with the sequence "\040", i.e. a zero-padded octal representation of the ascii code for space.

 

So, try:

 

192.168.1.11:volume1/Moneydance\040Data /mnt/Moneydance_data nfs defaults 0 0

 

 

 

(ref: https://superuser.com/questions/527495/how-to-mount-partition-with-spaces-in-path)




alisam

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  #3259795 15-Jul-2024 14:09
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jamesrt:

 

A quick targetted google search suggests that /etc/fstab won't parse spaces inside quotes as you'd expect (which doesn't surprise me in the least).

 

The suggested way forward was to replace spaces with the sequence "\040", i.e. a zero-padded octal representation of the ascii code for space.

 

So, try:

 

192.168.1.11:volume1/Moneydance\040Data /mnt/Moneydance_data nfs defaults 0 0

 

 

 

(ref: https://superuser.com/questions/527495/how-to-mount-partition-with-spaces-in-path)

 

 

Thank you. This does work.

 

PS Still have a minor problem with Permissions so will need to try and resolve or post again.





PC: Dell Inspiron 16 5640 (Windows 11 Home), Dell Inspiron 7591 2n1 (Windows 11 Pro), HP ProBook 470G1 (Windows 10 Pro), Intel NUC7I5BNH (Zorin)
Net: Grandstream 1 x GWN7062 Router, 1 x GWN7665 Access Point
Storage: Synology DS216play NAS, 2 x 6TB
Media: 3 x Amazon FireTV. Echo, Dot, Spot
TV: 2 x Samsung H6400 55" LED TV, Panasonic TH-P50G10Z 50" Plasma TV
Mobile: Samsung Galaxy A52 5G
Wearable: Gear S3 Frontier


alisam

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  #3259808 15-Jul-2024 14:54
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Moneydance will open the data file. I can add a transaction, shutdown Moneydance and on re-opening the transaction is there. So all is OK with 'Moneydata_data' syncing with the NAS.

 

But I cannot set the backups directory to "/mnt/Moneydance_backups".

 

Moneydance says "Error: Backup location must be writable'. I have played around with User and Group permissions and am left with.

 

alisam@UBUNTU:/$ cd mnt
alisam@UBUNTU:/mnt$ ls -la
total 16
drwxr-xr-x  4 root   root    4096 Jul 15 14:01 .
drwxr-xr-x 23 root   root    4096 Jul 14 05:50 ..
drwxrwxrwx  4 nobody nogroup 4096 Jul 15 14:04 Moneydance_backups
drwxrwxrwx  6 nobody nogroup 4096 Jul 15 14:03 Moneydance_data

 


alisam@UBUNTU:/mnt$ cd Moneydance_backups

 


alisam@UBUNTU:/mnt/Moneydance_backups$ ls -la
total 914404
drwxrwxrwx 4 nobody nogroup     4096 Jul 15 14:04  .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root   root        4096 Jul 15 14:01  ..
-rwxrwxrwx 1 nobody nogroup 71207522 Jun 27 17:09  123.2024-06-27-170840.moneydancearchive
-rwxrwxrwx 1 nobody nogroup 71212025 Jun 29 05:53  123.2024-06-29-055235.moneydancearchive
-rwxrwxrwx 1 nobody nogroup 71214318 Jun 30 10:21  123.2024-06-30-102043.moneydancearchive
-rwxrwxrwx 1 nobody nogroup 65585686 Jul  1 14:48  123.2024-07-01-144748.moneydancearchive
-rwxrwxrwx 1 nobody nogroup 65673581 Jul  2 12:14  123.2024-07-02-121008.moneydancearchive
-rwxrwxrwx 1 nobody nogroup 65696807 Jul  5 17:17  123.2024-07-05-171628.moneydancearchive
-rwxrwxrwx 1 nobody nogroup 65702035 Jul  5 17:24  123.2024-07-05-172352.moneydancearchive
-rwxrwxrwx 1 nobody nogroup 65704746 Jul  5 17:32  123.2024-07-05-173157.moneydancearchive
-rwxrwxrwx 1 nobody nogroup 65705345 Jul  5 17:40  123.2024-07-05-173945.moneydancearchive
-rwxrwxrwx 1 nobody nogroup 65711449 Jul  8 17:02  123.2024-07-08-170119.moneydancearchive
-rwxrwxrwx 1 nobody nogroup 65715753 Jul 11 06:40 123.2024-07-11-064031.moneydancearchive
-rwxrwxrwx 1 nobody nogroup 65716695 Jul 11 08:54  123.2024-07-11-085313.moneydancearchive
-rwxrwxrwx 1 nobody nogroup 65722163 Jul 12 14:50  123.2024-07-12-144930.moneydancearchive
-rwxrwxrwx 1 nobody nogroup 65725862 Jul 13 10:39  123.2024-07-13-103901.moneydancearchive
-rw-rw-r-- 1 alisam alisam         0 Jul 15 14:04  junk.txt
drwxrwxrwx 2 alisam alisam      4096 Jul 13 10:39 '#recycle'

 

Note:

 

I used 'touch' to write 'junk.txt', just to make sure I could write into the folder.

 

I read 'nobody nogoup' in some NFS installation instructions.

 

I have since 'rm' junk.txt and '123.2024-06-27-170840.moneydancearchive' just to prove I have permission.





PC: Dell Inspiron 16 5640 (Windows 11 Home), Dell Inspiron 7591 2n1 (Windows 11 Pro), HP ProBook 470G1 (Windows 10 Pro), Intel NUC7I5BNH (Zorin)
Net: Grandstream 1 x GWN7062 Router, 1 x GWN7665 Access Point
Storage: Synology DS216play NAS, 2 x 6TB
Media: 3 x Amazon FireTV. Echo, Dot, Spot
TV: 2 x Samsung H6400 55" LED TV, Panasonic TH-P50G10Z 50" Plasma TV
Mobile: Samsung Galaxy A52 5G
Wearable: Gear S3 Frontier


alisam

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  #3260296 16-Jul-2024 14:00
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I did make another post outlining why I set the answer.

 

I can't see it, but no problems.

 

But I have now tried samba (because I couldn't solve the NFS permission issues). Now I have another set of issues with samba. I think I am nearly there and will have to create a new Topic to ask for samba help.





PC: Dell Inspiron 16 5640 (Windows 11 Home), Dell Inspiron 7591 2n1 (Windows 11 Pro), HP ProBook 470G1 (Windows 10 Pro), Intel NUC7I5BNH (Zorin)
Net: Grandstream 1 x GWN7062 Router, 1 x GWN7665 Access Point
Storage: Synology DS216play NAS, 2 x 6TB
Media: 3 x Amazon FireTV. Echo, Dot, Spot
TV: 2 x Samsung H6400 55" LED TV, Panasonic TH-P50G10Z 50" Plasma TV
Mobile: Samsung Galaxy A52 5G
Wearable: Gear S3 Frontier


alisam

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  #3260318 16-Jul-2024 14:56
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Finally achieved what I wanted using samba.

 

UBUNTU boots and I can see my data and backups in a single share using SMB.

 

I can open Moneydance and on exiting it will save a backup.

 

I doubt I will ever be able to re-produce this, so sorry if you are a novice and need help.

 

It's a steep learning curve learning CFS and/or Samba. Using a Synology NAS makes it easier on the Server side.

 

 





PC: Dell Inspiron 16 5640 (Windows 11 Home), Dell Inspiron 7591 2n1 (Windows 11 Pro), HP ProBook 470G1 (Windows 10 Pro), Intel NUC7I5BNH (Zorin)
Net: Grandstream 1 x GWN7062 Router, 1 x GWN7665 Access Point
Storage: Synology DS216play NAS, 2 x 6TB
Media: 3 x Amazon FireTV. Echo, Dot, Spot
TV: 2 x Samsung H6400 55" LED TV, Panasonic TH-P50G10Z 50" Plasma TV
Mobile: Samsung Galaxy A52 5G
Wearable: Gear S3 Frontier


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