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mattz

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#303682 27-Feb-2023 22:48
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Couple of years back I added Wifi capability to my HP heatpump by connecting to the CN105 with a wemos D1. My other heatpump a Daikin Cora I had looked to do the same but no options existed and I didn't want to stump up for the official module. I was looking at this again the other day and saw that someone in the UK has now done this and has a fully polished project. https://github.com/revk/ESP32-Daikin.

In seems DIY automation is now taking to the next level and instead of simply soldering with a list of parts its now full PCB designs open sourced and ready to manufacture. I have imported the schematic into KiCad but I have little knowledge of PCB but I was wanting to understand if this is something that could easily be put together with an ESP, a step down and header as there doesn't appear to be much more to it than that.

 

I uploaded the PCB to PCBWay and have a quote fully assembled for two for about $60 USD inc shipping. There is also a 3d printed case in the github that could be ordered from the same place. I think JLCPCB is often cheaper but it has a minimum order of 5.

So firstly anyway else interested in doing the same? Either taking the code and simplifying the PCB module to build it ourselves or ordering from PCBway or similar?

 

Also I haven't spent much time looking but the code looks like native C rather than using Arduino libraries in order to use on the more common ESP8266 and in something like ESPHome it could be extracted as a library which I'd be wiling to help on but I'm no expert.

 

Anyway with the Daikin threads on wifi adaptor and IR solutions I thought this might be interesting to others.  😀

 

 

 

 


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  #3042960 28-Feb-2023 07:06
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Do you enjoy this kind of project, or are you trying to save money? It cost me $155 for my Daikin WiFi module a few months back. Different parts of the world have different controllers, I think NZ uses an older model of controller.

 

I have Home Assistant integrated directly with my Daikin heat pump's Wifi, it works well. I never use the Daikin app and rarely use the physical remote.


 
 
 
 

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  #3043006 28-Feb-2023 09:04
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I made an ESPHome one for Fujitsu, currently on a bread board and looks like a dog's breakfast, but it's sitting on the ducted unit, so not a big deal. I have looked at a PCB, but I wouldn't want to be responsible for soldering an ESP onto a PCB! Maybe something that you could slot a dev module in though?


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  #3043173 28-Feb-2023 11:48
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I looked in to this a while back as I have 4 split systems (FTXS25KVMA x2/FTXS35KVMA x2) that I would like to have remote control over and add to home automation.

 

Spoke to the team at www.blizzard.co.nz (very helpful) and they could supply a wifi controller, albeit somewhat larger and would sit external to unit (Install Video), for $177 incl. in Nov-2021.




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  #3043425 28-Feb-2023 22:40
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timmmay:

 

Do you enjoy this kind of project, or are you trying to save money? It cost me $155 for my Daikin WiFi module a few months back. Different parts of the world have different controllers, I think NZ uses an older model of controller.

 

I have Home Assistant integrated directly with my Daikin heat pump's Wifi, it works well. I never use the Daikin app and rarely use the physical remote.

 

 

 

 

I guess a bit of both, the motivation for the author of the hack was because Daikin moved to a slow fully cloud based solution which was difficult to use with a generic home automation system. 

 

Can I ask where you got the WiFi module from for $155? I haven't seen it for much under $300. Apart from NZ depot which is currently on sale for ~$180 but not sure I entirely trust them. 

 

Still $5 for an ESP and a little bit of time is always a good option in the enthusiast community. I recall the threads for the similar DIY integration for Mitsubishi heatpump being pretty active at the time.

 

 

 

 


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  #3043427 28-Feb-2023 22:49
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mattenz:

 

I made an ESPHome one for Fujitsu, currently on a bread board and looks like a dog's breakfast, but it's sitting on the ducted unit, so not a big deal. I have looked at a PCB, but I wouldn't want to be responsible for soldering an ESP onto a PCB! Maybe something that you could slot a dev module in though?

 

 

 

 

Agree I wouldn't have the tools to service mount the ESP onto a PCB, the quote I got was fully assembled. I'm kinda impressed that the DIY / hack integration projects are all starting to have these open source PCB designs and 3d cases that can just be ordered.

 

My original question was more around building something simpler than does the same job which could just be hidden inside the heatpump but it wasn't immediately clear from looking at the KiCad project exactly how it would fit together.

 

Anyway any DIY solution would require the S21 cable which I haven't checked if its preinstalled on my heatpump or not yet.


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  #3043448 1-Mar-2023 07:44
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mattz:

 

Can I ask where you got the WiFi module from for $155? I haven't seen it for much under $300. Apart from NZ depot which is currently on sale for ~$180 but not sure I entirely trust them. 

 

 

I had my latest heat pump with WiFi card installed by Evett Electrical. I don't know if they sell it standalone, and if they do now that I think about it the price could be higher outside of the "package" of getting it with a heat pump.


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  #3075397 12-May-2023 11:22
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I'm interested in this. I have 4x indoor units so it will be upwards of $600 dollars if buying the official ones. The guy who made the Faikin project actually sells them for £30.00 a pop + shipping but we still need to source the cables, which seems to be impossible to find.

 

In terms of making PCBs yourselves, it is cheap to make but then you need to buy and solder 19 components listed in the bom (some of them are so tiny you need very specific equipment to do). Finally if you did all that you still have to find the cable.

 

So I think the best option is to find the cables first then order from Amazon.




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  #3075470 12-May-2023 14:27
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mattz:

Can I ask where you got the WiFi module from for $155? I haven't seen it for much under $300. Apart from NZ depot which is currently on sale for ~$180 but not sure I entirely trust them. 

 

 

We have Daikin heat pumps and the installer told us "don't get the Daikin WiFi modules, they're a waste of money", and suggested one that Bunnings carried at a fraction of the price. I'd already had my eyes on one of the Broadlinks, they have built-in environment sensing so you can check whether you need to run things or not, and do everything the Daikin does at a fraction of the cost.

 

 

Even the installers are saying, don't bother.

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  #3075474 12-May-2023 14:37
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neb:
mattz:

 

Can I ask where you got the WiFi module from for $155? I haven't seen it for much under $300. Apart from NZ depot which is currently on sale for ~$180 but not sure I entirely trust them. 

 

We have Daikin heat pumps and the installer told us "don't get the Daikin WiFi modules, they're a waste of money", and suggested one that Bunnings carried at a fraction of the price. I'd already had my eyes on one of the Broadlinks, they have built-in environment sensing so you can check whether you need to run things or not, and do everything the Daikin does at a fraction of the cost. Even the installers are saying, don't bother.

 

 

 

Can you elaborate which exact thing Bunnings sell? Is that one of those IR controllers (Broadlink as you mentioned)? I don't think this is what the OP after as the title said "Not IR based" explicitly.


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  #3075476 12-May-2023 14:47
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patrickslee:

Can you elaborate which exact thing Bunnings sell? Is that one of those IR controllers (Broadlink as you mentioned)? I don't think this is what the OP after as the title said "Not IR based" explicitly.

 

 

It was some IR-based one, I know the OP wasn't after that but other people had mentioned the cost of the Daikin modules so I was suggesting alternatives to paying a fortune for Daikin.

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  #3075477 12-May-2023 14:49
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neb: We have Daikin heat pumps and the installer told us "don't get the Daikin WiFi modules, they're a waste of money", and suggested one that Bunnings carried at a fraction of the price. I'd already had my eyes on one of the Broadlinks, they have built-in environment sensing so you can check whether you need to run things or not, and do everything the Daikin does at a fraction of the cost. Even the installers are saying, don't bother.

 

My Daikin WiFi works well with the Daikin Android app and Home Assistant. It's more reliable than IR type remotes, and you get two way communication. For $155 it was well worth it for me. If it was $300 which some places seem to charge... probably still worth it given the heat pump will be there for a decade or more.

 

I don't use the temperature sensor in the Broadlink remote, I forgot it even had one. I have Xiaomi Bluetooth sensors attached to HA which work well. Those sensors are beside each other and are within 0.5 degrees of each other at the moment.


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I'm also very happy with my Daikin Wifi modules in my two heat pumps. The two way communication is the most important part and you just don't get that with any external units (Broadlink, Sensibo etc...). I also paid ~$150 for mine.


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  #3079707 26-May-2023 01:21
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Maybe not quite what you're looking for but I've been pretty happy with my Sensibo's. I have them integrated to both HomeKit (via HomeBridge) and Home Assistant. HomeKit has the scheduled on/off automations and linked controls from other HomeKit sensors (e.g. turn off if an exterior door is open for too long). Home Assistant exposes the controls, and displays temp/humidity graphs, on a wall mounted tablet and for mobile control (I find the simple thermostat card via HACS to be better for manual control). I never use the Sensibo app itself.

 

Very occassionally (maybe once or twice a year) I dig out a remote from the bottom of the mystery drawer to change or reset a more 'advanced' setting. But 99.999% of the time all I need to change is the basics - power state, mode, fan speed, or temp.


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  #3079708 26-May-2023 06:09
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I bought a remote assistant from Aliexpress for $12. I can use the phone app to Control my Daikin or Alexa. It can also control Tv's and other remote controled devices.


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  #3079769 26-May-2023 10:18
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Interesting project, but hampered by PCB unavailability (currently out of stock at Amazon and A&A), and the only cable I found was over $60. I might give it a look again in a few months and see if those issues have been solved, although my upper price level for the project would definitely be under $100.

 

When I had my heat pump replaced in 2021, adding the wifi unit during installation was quoted at just under $300. Given that I could already turn it on and off/change temp and modes via IR, all tied in to Home Assistant which also has room temperature sensors, that made the two-way communication a pretty high premium which I didn't deem worth it.

 

Good to see these cheap ESP home communication options being made available though. Especially projects like adding lay-z-spa wifi control which cost around $30 and gave me functionality that couldn't be achieved any other way.


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