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akoni

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#175113 17-Jun-2015 21:42

Hi

im looking for a provider that has good connection to asia (Japan, HK, Philippines)
im in vodafone now and connection is not good.
just doing some video viber,hangout,skype it gets pixelated and dropped.

care to help me paste the tracert results here and speedtest.net ?

TRACERT www.pldt.com.ph

SPEEDTEST to http://pldt.speedtest.net

thanks guys for the help..

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#1326823 17-Jun-2015 21:42

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#1326839 17-Jun-2015 21:54

On a Snap 200/200 UFB plan:

Tracing route to www.pldt.com.ph [210.14.4.124]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms charmander [192.168.5.1]
2 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 64.37.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.37.64]
3 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 80.53.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.53.80]
4 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 32.27.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.32]
5 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms 33.27.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.33]
6 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms ae5-2.akbr7.global-gateway.net.nz [210.55.202.213]
7 34 ms 34 ms 34 ms xe0-0-6.sgbr3.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.190]
8 34 ms 34 ms 34 ms ae2-10.sgbr4.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.246]
9 34 ms 34 ms 34 ms ae-3.a04.sydnau03.au.ra.gin.ntt.net [103.13.80.125]
10 34 ms 34 ms 34 ms ae-3.r05.sydnau01.au.bb.gin.ntt.net [202.68.64.124]
11 153 ms 146 ms 146 ms ae-8.r20.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.76]
12 171 ms 146 ms 165 ms ae-6.r00.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.8]
13 267 ms 267 ms 267 ms xe-0-4-0-8.r00.tokyjp01.jp.ce.gin.ntt.net [61.120.145.6]
14 299 ms 299 ms 299 ms 210.213.130.157.static.pldt.net [210.213.130.157]
15 299 ms 298 ms 299 ms 122.2.175.46.static.pldt.net [122.2.175.46]
16 269 ms 269 ms 268 ms 210.213.132.45.static.pldt.net [210.213.132.45]
17 269 ms 269 ms 269 ms 210.14.3.98
18 300 ms 300 ms 300 ms 210.14.4.3
19 272 ms 270 ms 271 ms 210.14.4.124

Trace complete.

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#1326852 17-Jun-2015 22:01

wow thats a bad ping

my Spark VDSL connection i get 189ms

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#1326858 17-Jun-2015 22:15

@akoni Why don't you show us a traceroute on your connection?

Also please advise us what type of connection you have got xDSL , Cable or Fibre?

It might not be ISP related what you are experiencing could be other factors like WiFi etc..

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#1326861 17-Jun-2015 22:28

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Route is the same as Michealmurfys pretty much.

3 * * * Request timed out.
4 53 ms 43 ms 42 ms ae8-10.akbr6.global-gateway.net.nz [122.56.116.5]
5 38 ms 55 ms 60 ms ae5-2.akbr7.global-gateway.net.nz [210.55.202.213]
6 60 ms 61 ms 79 ms xe7-0-2.sgbr3.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.10]
7 62 ms 61 ms 62 ms ae2-10.sgbr4.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.246]
8 83 ms 92 ms 61 ms ae-3.a04.sydnau03.au.ra.gin.ntt.net [103.13.80.125]
9 82 ms 68 ms 62 ms ae-3.r05.sydnau01.au.bb.gin.ntt.net [202.68.64.124]
10 189 ms 193 ms 184 ms ae-8.r20.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.76]
11 195 ms 184 ms 180 ms ae-6.r00.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.8]
12 309 ms 323 ms 304 ms xe-0-4-0-8.r00.tokyjp01.jp.ce.gin.ntt.net [61.120.145.6]
13 305 ms 308 ms 295 ms 210.213.130.157.static.pldt.net [210.213.130.157]
14 314 ms 323 ms 329 ms 210.213.128.69.static.pldt.net [210.213.128.69]
15 344 ms 344 ms 325 ms 210.213.132.41.static.pldt.net [210.213.132.41]
16 299 ms 320 ms 296 ms 210.14.3.98
17 313 ms 334 ms 311 ms 210.14.4.3
18 327 ms 307 ms 302 ms 210.14.4.124

I had a play around with some online traceroute tools, even from Hong Kong it was still a 220+ms ping.. looks like either that ISP or the Philippines in general has some fairly awful internet, and a quick look at http://www.submarinecablemap.com/ shows there are no real direct cables from here to there which is just exaccerbating it.

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#1326862 17-Jun-2015 22:32

Here's a vodafone adsl trace FWIW.

Tracing route to www.pldt.com.ph [210.14.4.124]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 5 ms vodafone.station [192.168.1.1]
2 103 ms 56 ms 60 ms 118-93-231-254.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz [118.93.231.254]
3 81 ms 49 ms 43 ms gi0-2-0-3.ppnzwtc01.wlg.vf.net.nz [203.109.180.210]
4 63 ms 47 ms 43 ms gi0-2-0-3.ppnzwtc02.wlg.vf.net.nz [203.109.180.209]
5 180 ms * 191 ms vodafone-gw.customer.alter.net [152.179.103.58]
6 193 ms 193 ms 197 ms 0.xe-2-2-0.GW2.LAX1.ALTER.NET [152.179.103.57]
7 203 ms 163 ms 194 ms 0.ae2.XT2.LAX7.ALTER.NET [140.222.225.27]
8 181 ms 195 ms 242 ms GigabitEthernet7-0-0.GW7.LAX7.ALTER.NET [152.63.118.53]
9 366 ms 360 ms 355 ms pldt.com.customer.alter.net [152.179.116.238]
10 374 ms 371 ms 378 ms 210.213.133.110.static.pldt.net [210.213.133.110]
11 358 ms 370 ms 365 ms 122.2.175.42.static.pldt.net [122.2.175.42]
12 364 ms 373 ms * 210.213.132.41.static.pldt.net [210.213.132.41]
13 370 ms 351 ms 358 ms 210.14.3.98
14 378 ms 348 ms 380 ms 210.14.4.3
15 389 ms 380 ms 374 ms 210.14.4.124

Trace complete.

akoni

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#1326870 17-Jun-2015 22:43

thanks michaelmurfy , lias and ghetto for the tracert.

mine is vodafone too.

C:\Users\job>tracert www.pldt.com.ph

Tracing route to www.pldt.com.ph [210.14.4.124]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 4 ms <1 ms <1 ms mikro [192.168.5.1]
2 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
3 135 ms 26 ms 47 ms be2-100.bras1ldv.akl.vf.net.nz [203.109.129.45]

4 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms be5-100.ppnzldv01.akl.vf.net.nz [203.109.129.46]

5 26 ms 21 ms 25 ms be7.ppnzldv02.akl.vf.net.nz [203.109.180.242]
6 20 ms 20 ms 27 ms be8.ppnzldv01.akl.vf.net.nz [203.109.180.241]
7 147 ms 149 ms 147 ms vodafone-gw.customer.alter.net [152.179.103.58]

8 152 ms 146 ms 196 ms 0.xe-2-2-0.gw2.lax1.alter.net [152.179.103.57]
9 146 ms 155 ms 158 ms 0.ae2.xt1.lax7.alter.net [140.222.225.25]
10 147 ms 150 ms 146 ms gigabitethernet6-0-0.gw7.lax7.alter.net [152.63.
118.49]
11 310 ms 310 ms 366 ms pldt.com.customer.alter.net [152.179.116.238]
12 311 ms 340 ms 310 ms 210.213.133.114.static.pldt.net [210.213.133.114
]
13 324 ms 306 ms 326 ms 210.213.128.69.static.pldt.net [210.213.128.69]

14 322 ms 310 ms 310 ms 210.213.132.41.static.pldt.net [210.213.132.41]

15 311 ms 311 ms 310 ms 210.14.3.98
16 313 ms * 316 ms 210.14.4.3
17 309 ms 309 ms 309 ms 210.14.4.124

Trace complete.

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#1326873 17-Jun-2015 22:49

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C:\Users\USER>tracert 210.14.4.124

Tracing route to 210.14.4.124 over a maximum of 30 hops

1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms 192.168.1.1
2    11 ms     8 ms     6 ms 125-239-205-1.jetstream.xtra.co.nz [125.239.205.1]
3     *        *        *     Request timed out.
4     6 ms     7 ms     7 ms ae8-10.akbr6.global-gateway.net.nz [122.56.116.5]
5     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms ae5-2.akbr7.global-gateway.net.nz [210.55.202.213]
6    31 ms    30 ms    29 ms xe0-0-1.sgbr3.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.110]
7    31 ms    32 ms    31 ms ae2-10.sgbr4.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.246]
8    31 ms    30 ms    30 ms ae-3.a04.sydnau03.au.ra.gin.ntt.net [103.13.80.125]
9    30 ms    30 ms    31 ms ae-3.r05.sydnau01.au.bb.gin.ntt.net [202.68.64.124]
10   143 ms   143 ms   143 ms ae-8.r20.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.76]
11   143 ms   143 ms   145 ms ae-6.r00.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.8]
12   196 ms   186 ms   218 ms xe-0-4-0-8.r00.tokyjp01.jp.ce.gin.ntt.net [61.120.145.6]
13   186 ms   186 ms   186 ms 210.213.130.161.static.pldt.net [210.213.130.161]
14   188 ms   187 ms   187 ms 122.2.175.42.static.pldt.net [122.2.175.42]
15   187 ms   186 ms   186 ms 210.213.132.41.static.pldt.net [210.213.132.41]
16   187 ms   186 ms   186 ms 210.14.3.98
17   188 ms   188 ms   188 ms 210.14.4.3
18   188 ms   189 ms   190 ms 210.14.4.124

Trace complete.

Speeds pretty crap though

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#1326875 17-Jun-2015 22:54

Thanks michaelmurfy, lias, ghetoo,jase

i believe there are only 2 backhaul here in NZ to the world? VOCUS and CALLPLUS? correct?

as far as i know vodafone uses vocus. While flip uses callplus and snapchat uses callplus. Does spark also uses callplus?

which do you think is better for me in terms of backhaul so that i can choose isp?

philippines skype/hangout/viber to USA or JAPAN skype/hangout/viber have good results based from my wifes usage there. but philippines to new zealand vodafone skype/hangout/viber have pixelated video disconnection problem.
it all started when netflix was introduced here in nz...

upon checking it looks like vodafone have problems with interconnection to philippines?? Note: speedtest to vodafone nz will result to 9.98mbps down and 1.2up
so maybe vodafone/vocus partners in asia is slow...

This is PLDT global network map:
http://pldtalpha.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/PLDTGlobalBrochureFINALART112712.pdf

please help me with your input guys... thanks

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#1326877 17-Jun-2015 22:54

i can get almost double the download with other servers in the same location

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#1326878 17-Jun-2015 22:55

i think you need more test data before you can make a decision

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#1326898 18-Jun-2015 00:05

akoni: Thanks michaelmurfy, lias, ghetoo,jase

i believe there are only 2 backhaul here in NZ to the world? VOCUS and CALLPLUS? correct?

as far as i know vodafone uses vocus. While flip uses callplus and snapchat uses callplus. Does spark also uses callplus?

which do you think is better for me in terms of backhaul so that i can choose isp?

philippines skype/hangout/viber to USA or JAPAN skype/hangout/viber have good results based from my wifes usage there. but philippines to new zealand vodafone skype/hangout/viber have pixelated video disconnection problem.
it all started when netflix was introduced here in nz...

upon checking it looks like vodafone have problems with interconnection to philippines?? Note: speedtest to vodafone nz will result to 9.98mbps down and 1.2up
so maybe vodafone/vocus partners in asia is slow...

This is PLDT global network map:
http://pldtalpha.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/PLDTGlobalBrochureFINALART112712.pdf

please help me with your input guys... thanks

Here is the network map for most NZ ISP's with who they peer to etc: http://www.ispmap.co.nz/realtime.php

Basically there are a bunch of upstream providers all using different routes. I think anyone connected to Global Gateway is your best bet for a lower latency service but you also need to provide a little more details like your connection type, modem sync speed, location etc. It could well be you're connected to a congested cabinet.

For lower latency your best bets are Spark, BigPipe and Snap - Snap peer in much more places in NZ however what you're after is international connectivity. I've noticed that the speedtest server you've also posted is not the best for an actual speedtest and I am able to get 100+mbit on other servers around there with an average ping of 190-250ms.

Another thing is to make sure you're using Ethernet, this makes a massive difference in most cases and it is worth a shot.

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#1326924 18-Jun-2015 05:54

Snap 30/30

TRACERT www.pldt.com.ph

Tracing route to www.pldt.com.ph [210.14.4.124]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms fritz.box [192.168]
2 5 ms 3 ms 3 ms 69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69]
3 2 ms 2 ms 3 ms 69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69]
4 13 ms 14 ms 11 ms 32.27.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.32]
5 11 ms 15 ms 14 ms 33.27.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.33]
6 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms ae5-2.akbr7.global-gateway.net.nz [210.55.202.213]
7 37 ms 38 ms 38 ms xe7-0-2.sgbr3.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.10]
8 38 ms 38 ms 38 ms ae2-10.sgbr4.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.246]
9 37 ms 38 ms 38 ms ae-3.a04.sydnau03.au.ra.gin.ntt.net [103.13.80.125]
10 38 ms 38 ms 38 ms ae-3.r05.sydnau01.au.bb.gin.ntt.net [202.68.64.124]
11 173 ms 156 ms 153 ms ae-8.r20.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.76]
12 152 ms 150 ms 150 ms ae-6.r00.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.8]
13 386 ms 268 ms 270 ms xe-0-4-0-8.r00.tokyjp01.jp.ce.gin.ntt.net [61.120.145.6]
14 284 ms 271 ms 270 ms 210.213.130.161.static.pldt.net [210.213.130.161]
15 302 ms 302 ms 302 ms 210.213.128.69.static.pldt.net [210.213.128.69]
16 272 ms 270 ms 270 ms 210.213.132.41.static.pldt.net [210.213.132.41]
17 270 ms 270 ms 270 ms 210.14.3.98
18 302 ms 301 ms 302 ms 210.14.4.3
19 272 ms 274 ms 274 ms 210.14.4.124

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#1327030 18-Jun-2015 09:09

Vodafone UFB.

traceroute www.pldt.com.ph
traceroute to www.pldt.com.ph (210.14.4.124), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 switch1.ifm.co.nz (192.168.73.254) 0.612 ms 2.140 ms 2.304 ms
2 vlan2.cisco1841.ifm.co.nz (192.168.76.4) 2.548 ms 2.604 ms 2.831 ms
3 203-109-232-1.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz (203.109.232.1) 6.565 ms 6.591 ms 6.870 ms
4 be7-188.ppnzftc02.akl.vf.net.nz.180.109.203.in-addr.arpa (203.109.180.226) 7.681 ms 7.709 ms 7.707 ms
5 be8-188.ppnzftc02.akl.vf.net.nz.180.109.203.in-addr.arpa (203.109.180.225) 7.150 ms 7.195 ms 7.093 ms
6 vodafone-gw.customer.alter.net (152.179.103.58) 133.148 ms 0.xe-2-2-0.gw2.lax1.alter.net (152.179.103.57) 131.521 ms 127.712 ms
7 0.ae1.xt2.lax7.alter.net (140.222.225.23) 128.100 ms 127.857 ms 127.873 ms
8 gigabitethernet7-0-0.gw7.lax7.alter.net (152.63.118.53) 131.816 ms 132.471 ms 131.855 ms
9 pldt.com.customer.alter.net (152.179.116.238) 295.522 ms 295.466 ms 295.547 ms
10 210.213.133.114.static.pldt.net (210.213.133.114) 292.915 ms 292.959 ms 291.985 ms
11 210.213.128.77.static.pldt.net (210.213.128.77) 296.889 ms 122.2.175.46.static.pldt.net (122.2.175.46) 292.834 ms 210.213.128.77.static.pldt.net (210.213.128.77) 293.359 ms
12 210.213.132.45.static.pldt.net (210.213.132.45) 295.277 ms 294.965 ms 295.004 ms
13 210.14.3.98 (210.14.3.98) 296.343 ms 295.190 ms 296.683 ms
14 * * *
15 * * *
16 * * *

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#1327111 18-Jun-2015 10:41

Spark VDSL, 32/10 normally

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
2 6 ms 5 ms 5 ms 125-239-11-1.jetstream.xtra.co.nz [125.239.11.1]
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 22 ms 22 ms 21 ms ae8-10.akbr6.global-gateway.net.nz [122.56.116.5]
5 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms ae5-2.akbr7.global-gateway.net.nz [210.55.202.213]
6 45 ms 46 ms 46 ms xe0-0-4.sgbr3.global-gateway.net.nz [122.56.127.94]
7 46 ms 46 ms 45 ms ae2-10.sgbr4.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.232.246]
8 45 ms 45 ms 45 ms ae-3.a04.sydnau03.au.ra.gin.ntt.net [103.13.80.125]
9 46 ms 45 ms 46 ms ae-3.r05.sydnau01.au.bb.gin.ntt.net [202.68.64.124]
10 194 ms 159 ms 157 ms ae-8.r20.tokyjp05.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.76]
11 158 ms 158 ms 158 ms ae-6.r00.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.8]
12 201 ms 201 ms 201 ms xe-0-4-0-8.r00.tokyjp01.jp.ce.gin.ntt.net [61.120.145.6]
13 201 ms 201 ms 203 ms 210.213.130.157.static.pldt.net [210.213.130.157]
14 202 ms 202 ms 239 ms 210.213.128.69.static.pldt.net [210.213.128.69]
15 202 ms 203 ms 201 ms 210.213.132.41.static.pldt.net [210.213.132.41]
16 202 ms 202 ms 202 ms 210.14.3.98
17 203 ms 202 ms 202 ms 210.14.4.3
18 205 ms 205 ms 205 ms 210.14.4.124
Trace complete

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