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  #3031907 4-Feb-2023 20:03
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Senecio: Did you drill for oil in your back yard when fuel prices went up?


 

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  #3031954 4-Feb-2023 20:08
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Batman:

 

i bought a used EV

 

 

I have a colleague who big time is into cars, V8's etc. She's helping getting rid of the oil!

 

I still don't get Senecio's comment though. The egg issue is not sudden and next month its over. It may take months + to resolve itself based on how long fertilised eggs can lay, let alone the growers that exited. Your chicken keeping idea is quite sensible.


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  #3031959 4-Feb-2023 20:40
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Batman:

 

not happy!

 

 

 

 

I'm sure the former battery hens really feel for you.




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  #3031961 4-Feb-2023 20:48
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Apparently its a global thing but for different reasons.  

 

US egg shortages unrelated to Bill Gates
https://news.yahoo.com/us-egg-shortages-unrelated-bill-191539582.html

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Articles and social media posts are connecting Bill Gates to egg shortages in the US. This is misleading; while the billionaire is the country's biggest private owner of farmland, a global avian flu outbreak is the primary culprit for the dearth of eggs.
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pih: Unless you discard a LOT of kitchen scraps each day, I guarantee you'll spend more on feed, setting up and maintenance than what you'd ever spend on eggs.

We have chickens, they eat all day, poop all day, and lay eggs occasionally if it's not too cold. We've spent several hundred over the last couple of years on their enclosure, feeding mechanisms and feed: that would have bought a lot of eggs. But for us it was about the lifestyle and having kids grow up knowing where their food comes from.

And sadly, yes, they all now have names. 😟
You're probably already doing this, but for anyone else that's reading: chickens need to be fed primarily chicken feed.  You supplement that with kitchen scraps not the other way around.





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  #3032020 5-Feb-2023 08:05
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lxsw20:

 

I'm sure the former battery hens really feel for you.

 



 

I’d suggest not many former battery hens would be feeling anything.

 

Less emancipation, more evisceration I suspect.

 

 

 

I grew up a a farm with true “free range” chooks. They were free to wander and roost wherever they chose and the only way you could keep track of them was at feeding time. It then became a detective game to observe and see where they were actually nesting. They had 120 hectares (300 acres) to roam but rarely went more than 50m from their principal food source. Hawks were the biggest threat, particularly to the chicks, and I dare say the odd stoat helped themselves as well.

 

With the size of most urban sections these days, keeping a meaningful number of chickens in a humane setting may be difficult.





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pih: Unless you discard a LOT of kitchen scraps each day, I guarantee you'll spend more on feed, setting up and maintenance than what you'd ever spend on eggs.

We have chickens, they eat all day, poop all day, and lay eggs occasionally if it's not too cold. We've spent several hundred over the last couple of years on their enclosure, feeding mechanisms and feed: that would have bought a lot of eggs. But for us it was about the lifestyle and having kids grow up knowing where their food comes from.

And sadly, yes, they all now have names. 😟


Which one is named Roast and which one is named Rotisserie? Asking for a friend.

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  #3032035 5-Feb-2023 09:25
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lxsw20:

 

Batman:

 

not happy!

 

 

I'm sure the former battery hens really feel for you.

 

 

i find it interesting we care more about chickens' happiness and keeping guinea pigs alive than who mines the cobalt for the electric car battery that will generate you $8650 but fair enough, i will eat fewer eggs for their sake.


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  #3032044 5-Feb-2023 10:49
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Senecio: Did you drill for oil in your back yard when fuel prices went up?




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  #3032045 5-Feb-2023 10:51
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Batman:

 

i find it interesting we care more about chickens' happiness and keeping guinea pigs alive than who mines the cobalt for the electric car battery that will generate you $8650 but fair enough, i will eat fewer eggs for their sake.

 

 

See I couldn't care less about where the cobalt comes from but I'll vote for a party (any party!) that says "Animal welfare is less important than people welfare, so we're rolling back all these stupid regulations, accepting that animals might have a crap life in order that humans can eat at a reasonable price". 





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  #3032055 5-Feb-2023 11:53
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Batman: i find it interesting we care more about chickens' happiness and keeping guinea pigs alive than who mines the cobalt for the electric car battery that will generate you $8650 but fair enough, i will eat fewer eggs for their sake.

Mostly this was driven by consumer demand for ethical product. Supermarkets started stocking only that. Regulation to level the playing field was never going to be far behind that. All of that production is in NZ.

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  #3032151 5-Feb-2023 13:22
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How many puns re chickens / eggs?

 

(Some good advice too)

 

 

(FWIW: Random pop up recommendation appeared on YT - I have not ever searched / watched anything related to chickens / eggs before!)


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gzt: Mostly this was driven by consumer demand for ethical product. Supermarkets started stocking only that. Regulation to level the playing field was never going to be far behind that. All of that production is in NZ.


More like consumer demand from places like Fendalton, Merivale and Remuera where people don’t mind paying $30 for 12 eggs from free range hens with regal familial histories and get twice daily massages and regular feather grooms.

I can’t imagine those who live in South Auckland, Linwood or Aranui are happy having a protein staple costing as much as they do now.

Unless of course the rich are wanting to stave the poor?

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gzt: 
Mostly this was driven by consumer demand for ethical product. Supermarkets started stocking only that. Regulation to level the playing field was never going to be far behind that. All of that production is in NZ.

 

I keep hearing talk of people about demand for "ethical" product, but almost no one ever admits they are one of those people.. in my experience the vast majority of people's shopping decisions are driven by price and nothing else.





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  #3032162 5-Feb-2023 14:17
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gzt: 
Mostly this was driven by consumer demand for ethical product. Supermarkets started stocking only that. Regulation to level the playing field was never going to be far behind that. All of that production is in NZ.

 

 

 

There is very little truth to this position as claimed by our extremely open and competitive supermarket duopoly. The reality is that they saw an opportunity to increase their profits, as well as the value of their public image. Regardless of what the vocal minority are claiming, the average shopper just wants a fair product at a fair price.


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