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msukiwi:Super Happy with my WIFE model.
Washes and dries perfectly every time.
It even puts the items away!
We're very happy with our Miele. Just don't touch F&P with a bargepole.
Our 6yo LG blew up over Christmas. Crap shot if repair was worth it so bit the bullet and decided to get a new one. Asked the Appliance repair guy what he would buy - no hesitation from him - Bosch. He said reliable enough he rarely repairs them and good 'repair-ability' with long parts availability. They consistently top the user satisfaction surveys. The models all use the same 'guts' with different wash cycles and internal trays and sizes, so it does not really matter if you get a cheap Bosch or an expensive one. We are very happy with the Bosch.
+1 for that model of Bosch
As with any dishwasher you have to stack intelligently.
Plastic bowls only on lower shelf where they will hotter and so dry from the residual heat.
Not overloaded so everything will wash.
We always scrap off dishes and burnt on pots get pre-cleaned.
Dishwasher goes on at night and emptied in morning, super quiet, glad I have this model with timer so you can see it working, friend has the cheaper model without display and never knows how far through the cycle it is as it is so quiet.
The spinner thing at the bottom got stuff in it like seeds that degraded its working over time. I have no idea how that fell in there but it was difficult to remove. If someone didn't think to check that they'd think the dishwasher was bad.
More or less I don't think I'd buy a Miele anything after having a Miele product with a manufacturing fault. I'm sure Miele in Germany is great but you're not going to be dealing with Miele Germany. Miele's New Zealand operation appears to be intertwined with their Australian subsidiary. It got fixed but never again.
If you do buy something Miele buy it from a New Zealand owned retailer. Miele sells whiteware on commission so if you buy direct or through Harvey Norman's that's a large bag of money being sent out of the country for no reason.
I don't think you can make any bad decision with bosch branded appliance.
That would be my preference at least based on my experience from past.
Thanks for the unlock.
Anyway, just looking at Bosch series 6, again, and am wondering, it says it has something called Rackmatic, so that you can move the higher draw up and down through 3 positions. Hence, does anyone know if on its lowest position you can fit full size dinner plated in there together with maybe 3 pans in the bottom rack (or vice versa). so decent number of plates and decent number of pans.
Most pictures seem to show one pan and quite a few plates in the bottom rack and just (can't remember the name now) smaller sandwich (?) plates in the top rack.
“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.” -John Kenneth Galbraith
rb99
With top rack on bottom position, on the bottom rack, our larger diner plates (270mm) are too high, but our smaller dinner plates (240mm) are OK, probably too low for a lot of uses, but the top rack has heaps of height (not enough for a dinner plate). With the top rack in the upper position our 190mm plates do not fit, taller glasses and coffee cups on second shelf don't fit. Top position is useless for us due number of coffee cups we go though. Middle position is the sweat spot for us. We don't tend to wash pots in the dishwasher, non-stick, super easy to clean them if you do it immediately after use when still warm (not too hot). Super easy to change height of top rack even when full, but we never do.
Thanks. Sounds like might be ok with pots on top and plates down below...if we get that far.
And/or take out the very top cutlery thing if possible.
“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.” -John Kenneth Galbraith
rb99
rb99:
And/or take out the very top cutlery thing if possible.
That doesn't come out - but you wouldn't need to ever take it out either. We have our top drawer on the half-way position and it is totally fine for even large plates. You learn to position plates and do a quick spin of the jet to ensure it wouldn't get caught on anything.
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Thanks again. Our plates appear to be 27cm. I'm probably over-analyzing, but if we do actually buy something hopefully it'll actually be an improvement on our 20 year old twin drawer thing.
“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.” -John Kenneth Galbraith
rb99
Our Bosch dishwasher wouldn't take large plates and pots at the same time. The three racks are great, but we wash pots by hand.
Even in just the top drawer of our old f+P we can get two pots and up to maybe 12 27cm plates, plus the cutlery and a bit of space for pot lids and the odd glass.
I'm hoping to fit that kind of stuff in no problem. Sounds a pretty basic requirement to me. Prefer to only have to hand wash un-dishwasher safe plastic stuff.
“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.” -John Kenneth Galbraith
rb99
Get one with a cutlery drawer at the top. Miele do them. They are a game changer.
mattwnz:
Get one with a cutlery drawer at the top. Miele do them. They are a game changer.
Bosch as well. Much better than the old basket design.
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