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Topic # 171953 6-May-2015 19:19
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I'm after some advice on what paint to use to repaint the interior of my house.

I'll be painting every room except the bathroom, definitely walls maybe ceilings. I have colour sorted, it's a Resene colour, but I'm sure I can either get a colour match or close colour in any range.

Now the tricky bit, what brand and type. It's my house, I have no plans to repaint regularly, so I want something that will wear pretty well.

Thanks in advance folks.




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  Reply # 1299358 6-May-2015 19:30
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I am never using the water based enamels again. Took months to lose the softness compared to a short time for solvent based stuff.

But for walls and non wear surfaces then I have just used whatever the house brand waterbased semigloss is at bunnings. Too cold to go look at the shed. Mostly goes on single coat, second coat gets full coverage and its not too stinky. Didnt do any reds or yellows which I understand is where cheap and good paints are different for coverage




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  Reply # 1299362 6-May-2015 19:37
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I wouldn't be going semi-gloss unless your walls have an extremely good finish. Fine on skirtings and doors. Low Sheen Dulux Wash & Wear or what ever the Resene equivalent is. 

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1299364 6-May-2015 19:39
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I used spacecote from Resene. Looks good, but seems to mark quite easily.

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  Reply # 1299367 6-May-2015 19:45
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We used protective paints velvet something or rather. Really nice finish.

I would go with their pigmented sealer as well. Ran out and used some BP sealant it was crap

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  Reply # 1299382 6-May-2015 20:01
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Resene and Dulux are good brands. I just tell the person in the shop what I'm doing and they recommend a flavor to me.

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  Reply # 1299551 6-May-2015 23:14
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I have used PPG "Architectural Coatings" (aka paint!) for all my rental properties and it wears well. It is also reasonably priced.

For ceilings I thoroughly recommend getting a "black white" made up rather than a ceiling paint straight off the shelf. I know it sounds ridiculous that there is such a colour as black white but there is. It's not as shiny bright as a normal ceiling white, so it hides any imperfections/blemishes in the surface amazingly well. And once it is rolled on it just looks like normal ceiling white.



It really does have a lot of black in it. This photo shows what black white looks like after it has been sitting around in the tin for a while. It seems like sorcery to me - give it a stir and it turns white.......





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  Reply # 1299596 7-May-2015 07:22
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Thanks for the responses so far guys.

That black white is nothing short of witchcraft.
I actually have textured plaster ceilings (that sponged look), so I'm thinking hiding imperfections is a bad idea. The whole ceiling IS imperfections.

I'll definitely be asking the supplier what paint they recommend, but I'm also aware that they're in the business of selling stuff. I thought it would be wise to know a bit before I go asking a sales person what they recommend.

I've done some very rough calcs, and figure I have somewhere in the vicinity of 275sqm of walls to paint. That's not a small amount of paint.




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  Reply # 1299612 7-May-2015 07:58
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PPG Paint from Bunnings can be around half the price (or more) of Dulux - definitely worth pricing up. Sticks to the wall all the same. 

Might be an advantage of going with the 'good stuff' for enamels, but for low sheen wall paint the cheap stuff is fine

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  Reply # 1299635 7-May-2015 08:32
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Dulux and Resene, goes on better and lasts longer IME.  The budget brands just never seem to be as easy to apply or give the quite same finish or longevity.  Depends how fussy you are of course and how long you intend to stay.  Satin for internal and enamel for wet areas.  Have tried the water clean up and have had no issues.  If it's a quick spruce up for a sale then that perhaps may guide your decision making towards a cheaper option.  I would get rid of that textured ceiling pronto!  




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  Reply # 1299659 7-May-2015 09:04
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scuwp: I would get rid of that textured ceiling pronto!  


And hope to the lord above that there is no asbestos in it. In all likelyhood there will be, especially if it was done in the 60's or 70's. My neighbour got his removed by EQC as part of his repairs - it was quite an ordeal.




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  Reply # 1299699 7-May-2015 09:51
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Dulux 101 wash n wear in a semi gloss. Flat has an architectural look and is great for hiding imperfections, but crap for cleaning if you have fingerprints from kids.

Flat is also easier to touch up, semi gloss over semi gloss is easily seen when doing  patch repairs.

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  Reply # 1299700 7-May-2015 09:53
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Which is why you go low sheen not flat, easy to clean and hides small imperfections. 

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  Reply # 1299722 7-May-2015 10:36
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I always find the low sheen finishes look aged even when fresh due to no shine. I dont have an issue with imperfections showing in semigloss other than one horrid gib join where the monkeys didnt use the tapered sides so it sticks out like 2-3mm from straight.




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While I prefer the finish from oil-based enamel for trim, water based enamels have improved markedly over the past decade. My main gripe is that they don't lay out quite as flat as good quality oil-based enamel, and don't have the same appearance of lustre/depth.

There are now some "eggshell" water based enamels which have a finish almost completely flat, but are much more durable and easy to clean than flat acrylic paints.  They cost about double that of conventional quality brand acrylic interior paints.  Very good indeed for wall areas exposed to wear or humidity where using an oil based enamel on large areas is a horrible job, and interior acrylic wall paint is not up to the task.  They overcome some of the issue when a flat finish will look best, but for durability you feel you would need at least a low-sheen or satin finish.

For getting a quality finish on trim, do not scrimp on brush quality.  The price of really good quality natural bristle brushes is very high, for about 1/2 that price high quality synthetic bristle brushes these days seem just as good - but half of extremely expensive still isn't cheap.  The bargain bin packs of 3 brushes for $10 are useful for cleaning greasy car parts or sweeping dust - but totally avoid using them for painting.  Cheap roller trays which flex or don't have enough texture to grip the roller nap, or not enough flat area to roll out are awful.  Budget rollers which stick, flex and are uncomfortable to grip are also horrible.  Cheap sandpaper is usually useless, budget quality masking tape is even worse than useless. 



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  Reply # 1300069 7-May-2015 18:42
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Thanks guys. I'm undoing years of terrible DIY, and fixing some water leak damage. I've been accused more than once of being "particular", and I intend to do a good job.

The textured ceiling is staying. It's not the classic sparkly crumble crap, its a squidged plaster kind of finish that does suit the house. A coat of paint will make it look good again.





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