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Topic # 185259 16-Nov-2015 11:18
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I think it is a simple job, but need a bit of advice before starting and getting it wrong.

Currently phone socket has been unscrewed from the wall, as it needs to be moved for new kitchen cabinets, and wanting to move it about 2 metres to a new location.

The phone was switched over to Spark fibre line last month, with a cat6 cable strung under the house connected with scotch locks to where the old ETP joined, . 

Thinking to divert that Cat6 cable from ONT to a wall socket, but it is a bit too short to reach where I want the phone.  Also wanting to kick start my structured cabling project.

What are my options here?

- Full on = buy a home networking cabinet, for patch panel and switch and ONT (same location as ONT). Patch the cat6 from ONT voice line into this, to connect with new Cat 6 to the keystone jack in the wall, with the phone on a BT to RJ45 adapter. 

- Small job = Wire the two wire phone cable into a keystone jack in the wall. Would need to connect the two phone wires (black & yellow) to the corresponding pins in the RJ45 socket?  There is enough spare cable in current setup to do this.

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  Reply # 1429514 17-Nov-2015 11:23
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Some more details..

Phone connection to voice port in ONT, then connected to Cat 6 cable:

Cat 6 connecting to ETP:

Would like to terminate phone in a new 2 socket data outlet.  The cat6 under the house is does not reach to this location..

Can install a home networking cabinet in the garage interior wall in same location as ONT, with a patch panel etc.  Or just connect a different Cat 6 cable to the Voice 1 lead in ONT and terminate as a normal Cat 6 outlet in the wall?  I presume the blue and white pair are the right ones for a BT to RJ45 adapter to work? 

The other end of the black ETP cable would reach the new location for phone.

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  Reply # 1429680 17-Nov-2015 14:29
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The best approach probably depends on whether you have other phone jacks in the house, and if so, whether you want them to continue to work.

Your existing phone socket is most likely daisy chained to others. Unless it is the last socket in the chain, if you take it out, all other sockets after that one will stop working.

If that's the only phone you need and you are wanting to install full structured cabling at some point in the future, I would either install the cabinet now and put in new runs as you require them, starting with this one. Or, as an interim approach you could install a faceplate next to the ONT with a single Cat5e or Cat6 cable from there to the phone location, or two for good measure.

For an RJ45 socket, the phone will use the middle two pins, which are typically the blue and blue/white wires in Cat5e/6. But, you should terminate all the wires if you want to be able to change the socket between phone and data now or in the future.

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  Reply # 1429789 17-Nov-2015 16:42
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Thanks, it was daisy chained in the past but was disconnected some time ago and is now the only active phone point.

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  Reply # 1429793 17-Nov-2015 16:56
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If you're planning to do structured cabling anyway, you may as well at least start on the full on project. No point in trying to do it later when it's potentially a lot harder to get to things.

Trying to reuse existing cabling is often not the best option, it usually takes at least as long to do and you don't know the condition of the cable.

If you don't want to start the project in earnest yet, run cat5e/6 cable from about where the patch panel will be to the position you want the phone and just put sockets on both ends then patch one into the phone with RJ45 - RJ11 cables.

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