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Topic # 223740 15-Oct-2017 18:10
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Hi

I want to move our VDSL and phone jack, which requires disconnecting and reconnecting the wires. I think it should be straight forward as long as I take note of where the wires are and out then back in the same place, but what I am unsure of is the punch down tool/s I need.

I have done a heap of googling, but it sounds like there are different tools for different jack's, and I have a feeling the phone and VDSL jack's are different. Picture attached - VDSL is on the left

Can someone please advise what tool/s I need.

I will also be connecting up some naked cat network cables to new jack's at some point, can I use the same tool? Am I better to get a kit of some sort? I don't want to spend too much, given its a one off job.

Thanks in advance for your help.




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  Reply # 1883884 15-Oct-2017 18:27
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Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but the one on the left will need a "krone" punchdown tool, and the one on the right a "110".

RJ45 ethernet jacks tend to need a 110 tool, and BT telephone jacks a krone tool.

My punchdown tool actually has both blades, so that's one option for you. Otherwise, just use RJ45 jacks for everything, and get a cheap 110 punchdown tool. You may just be able to pop out the jacks you have in currently.

You can then (very cheaply) buy a couple of RJ45 to RJ12 cables to plug in phone and VDSL modem.

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  Reply # 1883885 15-Oct-2017 18:31
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Some sort of Krone compatible IDC tool will work, and yes it will be fine for the CAT cables.


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1883886 15-Oct-2017 18:31
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Some sort of Krone compatible IDC tool will work, and yes it will be fine for the CAT cables.


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  Reply # 1883893 15-Oct-2017 18:40
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Make sure you replace that RJ45 socket for the VDSL. These should not be reused as they won't make a good connection second time round. For the BT jack, you may get away with reuse, else use RJ45 for that too.




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  Reply # 1883911 15-Oct-2017 18:54
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I bought one of these from Mitre 10 when I replaced my wiring. The wires haven’t fallen out yet... so it worked okay.
https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/custom-telephone-socket-wiring-tool-white/p/106736

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  Reply # 1888084 23-Oct-2017 15:07
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coffeebaron: Make sure you replace that RJ45 socket for the VDSL. These should not be reused as they won't make a good connection second time round. For the BT jack, you may get away with reuse, else use RJ45 for that too.

 

The only reasons you shouldn't reuse a jack are that it was damaged or just not a very good design in the firstplace, corroded contacts, or full of dust/rubbish. If you want to swap it between vertical and horizontal faceplates they dont always come out in one piece either. If the old jacks seem a bit crappy then replace it with better ones that have a retaining cap to hold the wires in.





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  Reply # 1889240 25-Oct-2017 12:05
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Thanks guys for the responses.

I ended up getting a Hanlong impact punch tool that does both krone and 110 jack's. It worked a charm and am all connected back up.

I got the tool from a local electrical supply place (Stewarts electrical) - pic attached - for $20


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