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#236020 14-May-2018 10:16

So am thinking I need a new Insinkerator as the old one is at least 10 years old, leaks and doesn't work just buzzes. So two questions please -

Which Insinkerator between models 46 and 56 (probably). 56 seems to have a better guarantee and stainless steel not galvanised - is the 56 worth it (assuming it fits instead of the smaller 46).

I saw it has some kind on Quicklock thing so that I supposedly just release the Quicklock, remove old unit and attach new. Should be do-able even by me, but most videos seem to show removing the whole thing the unit is attached to as well and installing the in sink drain as well with new putty etc. Is that bit necessary ? seems to negate the whole point of the Quicklock thing.

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#2015625 14-May-2018 11:16

Mine have usually failed at the plastic joints. Made no difference about expensive or cheap model. I think councils should charge people who have them a surcharge or ban them as they must increase the load on the sewege system

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#2015658 14-May-2018 11:59

mattwnz: Mine have usually failed at the plastic joints. Made no difference about expensive or cheap model. I think councils should charge people who have them a surcharge or ban them as they must increase the load on the sewege system

That depends on how the sewage is treated.

In Chch the additional organic load is utilised in digesters, that's producing methane which is recovered, then used in electrical generation which powers the plant, and surplus electricity sold to the grid.

If that food waste was dumped to landfill - as much of it would be, or even "composted", then rather than the methane from biological decomposition being recovered, it would go into the atmosphere - which is worse.

The biggest load on the sewage system is from bad plumbing design - stormwater entering the sewage system, which could not only increase flow to above capacity for the plant to treat, but reduces organic content in the waste which reduces the efficiency of the anaerobic digesters.

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#2015661 14-May-2018 12:10

rb99:

Is that bit necessary ? seems to negate the whole point of the Quicklock thing.

I would do it. It's only adding a few minutes to the job, and the seals around the sink fitting are a common place for leaks.

The quicklock thing is a good way to get access to the top of the unit - but you'll still probably need to disconnect the waste pipe etc. I suggest you use this to remove the unit and check it before splashing out on a new one. The motor might be borked - as you're assuming, but it could also be that something is jamming it and it's very hard to see from the top with the unit attached to the sink. Likely candidates are bits of plastic - those hard plastic things that they use to seal plastic bags that bread etc is packed in seem to be common culprits.

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#2015667 14-May-2018 12:24

I would suggest getting one or two levels above what you need. I used to do a lot of cooking and our one will pretty much take bones and make them powder (I haven't tried it). I have been very pleased our plumber suggested going bigger than the original one.

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#2015668 14-May-2018 12:28

OK, thanks. I shall try and see if there's something jamming it, though I can turn it by putting a wooden spoon down it. If broke shall hopefully get something soon while they seem to be a reasonable price.

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#2015672 14-May-2018 12:32

Heh, I am completely sure a wooden spoon wouldn't have survived 5 seconds in our one. We accidentally dropped an avocado pip in there and it was gone in 5 seconds.

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#2015673 14-May-2018 12:34

Its a model 45 at the moment so a 46 would be the replacement and 56 the next one up - physically bigger but same size motor. 66 is getting a bit expensive though, especially as bones etc end up in the bin.

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#2015674 14-May-2018 12:34

If it's turning that easily and not jammed - then yeah - the motor is probably borked.

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#2015676 14-May-2018 12:36

It's the brand. Expensive or cheap makes no difference to performance or life span!

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#2015725 14-May-2018 13:34

Fred99:

wage system, which could not only increase flow to above capacity for the plant to treat, but reduces organic content in the waste which reduces the efficiency of the anaerobic digesters.

Many councils now have to install expensive sewage treatment plants to treat the actual solid stuff coming out. That cost is too much for some, and some are using it for irrigating fields etc. I know additional water is also a problem, but councils could police that better, by educating and then fining people who have their stormwater connected to sewage.It is all the crap that people are putting down it, such as these baby wipes that don;t break down, which are causing councils problems, and government could help fix that. We used to put bones and a lot of other kitchen waste down ours and regularly had plumbing blockages. The other part of ours that failed regually was the aluminium housing, even though all the other parts were stainless.We got one of the most expensive stainless ones too, and the plastic connector just sheared off, possibly for it vibrating when putting down bones, and it couldn't be repaired. These home disposal units always seem to fail at the weakest point and I have had both expensive and cheap models. I now have one just to fill the hole in the sink, and compost most other things. IMO it is a bit like not using plastic bags at supermarkets, you may need to take a bit more time, but it helps the planet.

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#2015734 14-May-2018 13:46

Recently replaced our obsolete model with a 66. Have personally had the smaller unit previously and constantly had problems with blockages because it wasn't munching things up properly. The 66 has been great.

I personally removed the quick lock brackets and seals and replaced them with the new ones that came in the kit. It wasn't at all hard (if you are remotely DIY capable its pretty simple) and it was nice to have everything shiny and new, particularly the rubbers.

Purchased mine from Mitre 10. Bunnings had a good deal on them so I went to Mitre 10 and they honoured their best price promise and I got another 15% off. Ended up saving well over $100 on the retail price. You could do the same with that NL deal.

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#2015742 14-May-2018 13:55

scuwp:

Recently replaced our obsolete model with a 66. Have personally had the smaller unit previously and constantly had problems with blockages because it wasn't munching things up properly. The 66 has been great.

I personally removed the quick lock brackets and seals and replaced them with the new ones that came in the kit. It wasn't at all hard (if you are remotely DIY capable its pretty simple) and it was nice to have everything shiny and new, particularly the rubbers.

Purchased mine from Mitre 10. Bunnings had a good deal on them so I went to Mitre 10 and they honoured their best price promise and I got another 15% off. Ended up saving well over $100 on the retail price. You could do the same with that NL deal.

Just like a TV, bigger is always better

So you took the thing in the sink out and replaced it with one that came with it. I guess you removed and replaced the putty ? Just wondering as I always seem to spend an inordinate amount of time with putty trying just the right amount and fiddling and scraping and adjusting and whatever.

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#2015748 14-May-2018 14:01

Get the model 56. The galv parts in the 45 rust, the unit doesn't chop everything properly anymore. And the drain pipes block up as a result.

Model 56 also comes with a air switch.

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#2015774 14-May-2018 14:32

Aredwood: Get the model 56. The galv parts in the 45 rust, the unit doesn't chop everything properly anymore. And the drain pipes block up as a result.

Model 56 also comes with a air switch.

Actually I think I will.

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#2015789 14-May-2018 15:15

rb99:

scuwp:

Recently replaced our obsolete model with a 66. Have personally had the smaller unit previously and constantly had problems with blockages because it wasn't munching things up properly. The 66 has been great.

I personally removed the quick lock brackets and seals and replaced them with the new ones that came in the kit. It wasn't at all hard (if you are remotely DIY capable its pretty simple) and it was nice to have everything shiny and new, particularly the rubbers.

Purchased mine from Mitre 10. Bunnings had a good deal on them so I went to Mitre 10 and they honoured their best price promise and I got another 15% off. Ended up saving well over $100 on the retail price. You could do the same with that NL deal.

Just like a TV, bigger is always better

So you took the thing in the sink out and replaced it with one that came with it. I guess you removed and replaced the putty ? Just wondering as I always seem to spend an inordinate amount of time with putty trying just the right amount and fiddling and scraping and adjusting and whatever.

Putty? No putty. Rubber seal under the silver ring that drops into the hole and then there are a couple of seals underneath that clamp up under the mounting bracket. I have installed and uninstalled a few of these over the years and have only ever seen the seals used, no putty or silicon.

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