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#3230420 14-May-2024 16:14

Ge0rge: Country Calendar - that's all that's left on there for me now.

Agreed. But the moment they decide to change the theme tune to something new in an effort to "modernise", that is where I tap out 😆

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#3230422 14-May-2024 16:16

openmedia:

Lias:

The sooner all taxpayer funded tv/radio is killed off the better. It made sense 50 years ago, now it's just a waste of my money.

So you'd be happy to only watch US centric shows produced by multi-nationals?

Personally I think we need to double down on TVNZ/RNZ to have a true PBS model more like ABC or BBC. We need local stories. NZ On Air is a big help, for example Dark Matter on Sky Open, but we need local news and current affairs coverage.

Or you know... Kiwis can make youtube channels. Scott Brown Capentry is doing well, the tiny homes one is good.

Theres just other outlets than a dying FTA network

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#3230432 14-May-2024 16:46

Streaming certainly isn't the promised land it once was thought or hoped to be. The monitisation challenges of legacy TV are no different on streaming now, except that the expectation of consumers has changed so it's much harder to accept advertising in the middle of a show you've paid a subscription to watch. Then there's the fact that the more services you subscribe to, the closer you get to wanting a Sky kind of subscription that packages a bunch of services into one account. It seems to me that the problem isn't the medium, it's the lack of monitisation innovation beyond just ads or subscriptions, or subscriptions with ads.

And then there's this can of worms:

‘My whole library is wiped out’: what it means to own movies and TV in the age of streaming services | Australian media | The Guardian

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#3230435 14-May-2024 16:51

Mehrts:

But think of the older people that can't/won't do online streaming services...

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Adapt or die. The broadcast networks missed that boat with their token app efforts which results in no paramount+ for us and rights getting sold the the local crap streaming services that probably think atmos and HDR are exotic diseases or something.

Old people will be out of their money soon so no more scam boner pills or other supplements will get sold, so the broadcast TV advertisers will die off.

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#3230436 14-May-2024 16:52

reven:

Or you know... Kiwis can make youtube channels. Scott Brown Capentry is doing well, the tiny homes one is good.

Theres just other outlets than a dying FTA network

sparkydave is a great NZ youtube channel. Lots of apprentices are watching it for tips. Taco Golf is another local gem.

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#3230478 14-May-2024 18:30

gehenna:

Streaming certainly isn't the promised land it once was thought or hoped to be. The monitisation challenges of legacy TV are no different on streaming now, except that the expectation of consumers has changed so it's much harder to accept advertising in the middle of a show you've paid a subscription to watch.

The benefit for NZ TV companies with the free ondemand streaming, is that they can insert ads, and they can't be skipped. Where as in the Tivo / PVR days with OIA broadcasts, we can skip all the adverts.

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#3230488 14-May-2024 19:01

The FTA channels have some good content. They do a terrible job of promoting it to someone like me.

I see billboards now and then. Those seem to be all focused on news personalities and reality tv shows. I'm very unlikely to tune in for either one. That's all the promotion I'm aware of.

Content promotion is really really bad. Billboards is the sum total as I see it.

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#3230489 14-May-2024 19:03

gzt: The FTA channels have some good content. They do a terrible job of promoting it to someone like me.

I see billboards now and then. Those seem to focused on news personalities and reality tv shows. I'm very unlikely to tune in for either one. That's all the promotion I'm aware of.

Content promotion is really really really bad. Billboards is the sum total as I see it.

Depending on where you live you can access a digital copy of "The Listener" for free via the Libby library app.

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#3230492 14-May-2024 19:12

openmedia: Depending on where you live you can access a digital copy of "The Listener" for free via the Libby library app.

This publication I've averaged one purchase a year for a long time now. There is a lot to like about it. Like many things the transition to digital was very late. They seem to be doing well so perhaps it worked out well over the years.

Is it readable on Libby? and what kind of screensize is required for a good experience? 28" 4K monitor with 3:2 aspect ratio? ; )

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#3230495 14-May-2024 19:26

openmedia:

Depending on where you live you can access a digital copy of "The Listener" for free via the Libby library app.

Although you are paying for it in your household rates with the library contribution.

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#3230497 14-May-2024 19:39

mattwnz:

openmedia:

Depending on where you live you can access a digital copy of "The Listener" for free via the Libby library app.

Although you are paying for it in your household rates with the library contribution.

Miniscule compared to the proposed "fixing the pipes" percentge

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#3230500 14-May-2024 20:01

mattwnz:

The benefit for NZ TV companies with the free ondemand streaming, is that they can insert ads, and they can't be skipped. Where as in the Tivo / PVR days with OIA broadcasts, we can skip all the adverts.

There’s a lot more services available now then in the PVR days, so can from around $15 watch content from other services instead of free on demand, and better quality.

The fact ads cannot be fast forwarded as in old days is one more reason not to watch it. They were probably doing better in the old days.

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#3230505 14-May-2024 20:19

rugrat:

The fact ads cannot be fast forwarded as in old days is one more reason not to watch it. They were probably doing better in the old days.

Still using my trusty 'Vintage' Tivo from my days in NZ, and it's been with me since 2011, faithfully spinning away. Honestly, I've yet to find a suitable replacement for this old gem. While there's plenty of great content on TV here in Aus, I also have an Android mibox loaded with all the online TV apps. But, truth be told, the Tivo still sees the most action (except for Netflix and Stan). Those pesky unskippable ads can be a real nuisance!

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#3230508 14-May-2024 20:27

openmedia:

So you'd be happy to only watch US centric shows produced by multi-nationals?

Which is kind of irrelevent to his point. Having TVNZ/TV3 doesn't alleviate the problem in the slightest - the presence of several channels of ad-saturated dreck that I never watch is neither here nor there in terms of what I watch. I'm totally indifferent to their continued existence. I see no reason for my taxes to go to to fund the likes of shortland street - it's just as terrible as the worst bottom of the barrel US fare, just with slightly different accents. Either give the money back to me, or spend it on something that matters like health.

Sell TVNZ, turn off the taxpayer funding, and leave it to swim or sink on its commercial merits.

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#3230516 14-May-2024 21:04

State broadcasters still have their place. RNZ is a treasure. TVNZ needs to keep doing what it does in order to act in its role as state television broadcaster when it's needed.

I say this as a fan of Newshub by preference and someone who is sorely concerned by the loss of the investigative journalism world, and of local content in particular. As much as I enjoy what Hollywood puts out, I also enjoy some BBC programming and it's a shame to see the domestic television marketplace becoming so uncertain.

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