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117 places of interest now, expected to surpass 150
tdgeek:
117 places of interest now, expected to surpass 150
Amazing to think it was only a week ago that we were all talking about the serious risks faced by both NZ and Australia and here we are now with all of Victoria in lockdown.
I fear if this had been a city in New Zealand that things would not have gone as smoothly as they have there. It just shows how prepared we all need to be for something like this to happen here, because you have to be realistic that it very well could. it's just bad luck that this happened to Melbourne.
sbiddle:
Amazing to think it was only a week ago that we were all talking about the serious risks faced by both NZ and Australia and here we are now with all of Victoria in lockdown.
I fear if this had been a city in New Zealand that things would not have gone as smoothly as they have there. It just shows how prepared we all need to be for something like this to happen here, because you have to be realistic that it very well could. it's just bad luck that this happened to Melbourne.
Why would it not gone as smoothly here? We've had a lockdown in AKL, contained. If we had what MEB has, it would have spread the same, I doubt the lockdown strategy would be any different.
Yes, this can happen here. Like AUS we have had very few MIQ leaks, but they are a risk. However this travel bubble has been a farce. Days after it was enacted, there were issues over there in multiple locations, now we have this in MEB and we have inherited 5000 Melbourne travellers where we have no choice but to rely on their honesty to self isolate and get tested. Forget the bubble until only vaccinated people can use it. Even if the vaccination was complete in both countries, Covid is here to stay, so why push the envelope now, especially with variants and mutations proving to be serious. I;m unsure what economic net benefits each country has enjoyed with this bubble, but that will very much go into the red now
tdgeek:
Why would it not gone as smoothly here? We've had a lockdown in AKL, contained. If we had what MEB has, it would have spread the same, I doubt the lockdown strategy would be any different.
Yes, this can happen here. Like AUS we have had very few MIQ leaks, but they are a risk. However this travel bubble has been a farce. Days after it was enacted, there were issues over there in multiple locations, now we have this in MEB and we have inherited 5000 Melbourne travellers where we have no choice but to rely on their honesty to self isolate and get tested. Forget the bubble until only vaccinated people can use it. Even if the vaccination was complete in both countries, Covid is here to stay, so why push the envelope now, especially with variants and mutations proving to be serious. I;m unsure what economic net benefits each country has enjoyed with this bubble, but that will very much go into the red now
The restrictions in Melbourne are tougher than anything we've had here. The simple reality is most people I know in Melbourne are well prepared for the reality of this happening whereas a 7 day lockdown in somewhere like Wellington would just cause carnage. I see NZ as a whole still has the mentality that we beat Covid.
I look at the bubble and how well it's worked and simply see it as proof that there is no reason that this should not have been in place 6 months ago for Xmas - because nothing has fundamentally changed in that time
Seems similar to here
For the next seven days, Victorians will be required to stay at home except for essential work, shopping, exercise, caregiving or to get a Covid vaccine. No gatherings are allowed and travel is restricted to within 5km (3.1 miles) of the home.
But maybe doing your nails isn't included this time...
Cannot agree re the bubble, lets see if we are "lucky again" and that the 5000 here are clear of infection.
sbiddle:
The restrictions in Melbourne are tougher than anything we've had here. The simple reality is most people I know in Melbourne are well prepared for the reality of this happening whereas a 7 day lockdown in somewhere like Wellington would just cause carnage. I see NZ as a whole still has the mentality that we beat Covid.
Thougher? This just sounds like our level 4:
You must stay within 5km of your home for shopping and exercise. This limit does not apply to authorised work, when giving or receiving care, getting a COVID-19 vaccination or visiting an intimate partner or your single social bubble buddy.
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Throw into the mix the observed greater ease of transmission of the strain that's in Victoria. If we'd had that here, we mightn't have been able to contain it - we had a couple of very close calls as it was.
Tougher?
I didn't see armed police on horses rounding up carting away, throwing the book at dickhead "anti-lockdown" protesters etc - in NZ.
sbiddle:
I look at the bubble and how well it's worked ...
Early days, let's see if we are saying the same thing in two weeks time.
Let's hope it doesn't show to have been our undoing.
It's funny how they allow people to have visits from an "intimate partner". What could possibly go wrong? 🤣
alasta:
It's funny how they allow people to have visits from an "intimate partner". What could possibly go wrong? 🤣
I can imagine a "commercial intimate partner" spreading covid (amongst other things) around the city. 😆
alasta:
It's funny how they allow people to have visits from an "intimate partner". What could possibly go wrong? 🤣
They got roasted in the First big lockdown and the media branded it a "Bonk ban"
I Think they worked out even if it spreads, its only a 1-1 transactions, not a mass gathering
wellygary:
alasta:
It's funny how they allow people to have visits from an "intimate partner". What could possibly go wrong? 🤣
I Think they worked out even if it spreads, its only a 1-1 transactions, not a mass gathering
You lead a sheltered life. lol
frankv:
You lead a sheltered life. lol
Hey, we are not living in Canada :)
"In mid-May, Paula Hughes was ready to bring her boyfriend into her social bubble. Two months of texting and taking walks two metres apart due to COVID-19 restrictions, she said, had "really, really sucked."
But first, the 40-year-old bookkeeper had to discuss her plans with her long-term partner, his spouse and the spouse's partner — who happens to be Hughes's soon-to-be ex-husband. The four of them are polyamorous and share a six-bedroom home in Surrey, B.C. "
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/polyamory-pandemic-1.5608920
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