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  #2939869 8-Jul-2022 19:53
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If you haven't already placed an order, an EVSE is no longer included with the car:

 





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  #2939871 8-Jul-2022 20:02
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Obraik:

 

If you haven't already placed an order, an EVSE is no longer included with the car:

 

 

Ouch! We've gone the way of the US... Also explains why I noticed earlier today that the mobile connector price had dropped from $900(sh) to $600. 

 

I assume those of us who already have a submitted an order will get a car supplied with the mobile connector?


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  #2939872 8-Jul-2022 20:03
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Yes, if you already ordered then you'll be getting an EVSE with the car.





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  #2939878 8-Jul-2022 20:35
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I ordered earlier today… I don’t think I saw those options.

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  #2939913 9-Jul-2022 06:07
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So has the price gone down $600?





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  #2939914 9-Jul-2022 06:39
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i saw some boot measurements online - suspiciously non perpendicular, random angle?) and boot seems smaller than people "feel" it is

 

anyone can measure please for comparison with the hoards of models coming to NZ (atto 3, enyaq ...)

 

 

 

width x depth x height to seats - this is closer to other car manufacturers' "boot capacity"

 

 

 

i got from the net

 

width .94m depth 1.08m height .48m = 487L

 

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boot depth at level of seats 81cm

 

shortest boot depth at floor level 1.04m

 

width behind wheel arch - 1.2m

 

narrowest boot opening width 1.0m

 

max boot height 67cm

 

boot depth with rear seats down - 185cm

 

 

 

 

 

please and thank you

 

 

 

(example, kia sorento is 616L)


 
 
 
 

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  #2939916 9-Jul-2022 07:07
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here's what i found for atto 3 at 20k cheaper

 

434L

 

boot depth rear seats down 1.6m

 

narrowest booth width 96cm

 

depth 78cm

 

height to ceiling 82cm

 

height to seats ?? - height to parcel shelf 60cm

 

width behind wheel arch 1.3m

 

depth at seat height 58cm


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  #2939938 9-Jul-2022 09:42
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Bloody Chrome running out of memory... lost my reply when it refreshed the page!

 

In summary, what I'd noted was I feel Tesla seems to deliberately make it hard to compare cars, and not providing an accurate/comparable measurement of storage capacity in the Y is a perfect example. Bjorn's banana box test is too crude to be particularly useful (especially in a car like the Y with the sloping back window; that space may not take another hard large rectangular object, but it'll sure fit something else when I'm packing!); I saw in one Aus review of the Y they used soccer balls, and it appeared to be something they commonly do - perhaps they may have/will do the same thing with the Atto, which will give you some comparison.

 

And that review, like so many others, specifically commented on how capacious the Y was (both passenger and storage wise) - not something I've heard mentioned too many times about the boot of the Atto! Don't forget - the Y also has the under-boot and frunk spaces, which really adds to this usable capacity. I'm very comfortable in concluding - even without seeing either in person - that the Atto's storage capacity and flexibility aren't a patch on the Y, but that's as to be expected given they're not in the same car class, nor would see themselves as competition for the other.

 

Having done a significant amount of research in looking for which EVs would work for us, my conclusion was that the only other car that would provide adequate space (at a price that may have been affordable) is the Skoda Enyaq (585l), but that's not going to arrive in NZ until next year, and given how things are going there's a good chance it won't be under the rebate cap (how long the Y remains under is another consideration). When first announced I had hopes for the Toyota B#T^r3# or whatever it's called, but its boot is only 452l (with tiny under-boot and no frunk) - and that's before one considers all the other things that are so wrong with this car.

 

Anyway, here's an exciting video for you - 20+ minutes of Ryan Shaw measuring all dimensions of the MY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFQlXOCo3Fw

 

 

 

 


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  #2939939 9-Jul-2022 09:50
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i've gotten the measurements from that video

 

he doesn't keep the tape at perpendicular angles nor is the tape straight.

 

also he measures everything but the rear passenger shoulder and hip width room, which is the next most useful thing after boot dimensions


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  #2939942 9-Jul-2022 09:54
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jonathan18:

 

Bloody Chrome running out of memory... lost my reply when it refreshed the page!

 

In summary, what I'd noted was I feel Tesla seems to deliberately make it hard to compare cars, and not providing an accurate/comparable measurement of storage capacity in the Y is a perfect example. Bjorn's banana box test is too crude to be particularly useful (especially in a car like the Y with the sloping back window; that space may not take another hard large rectangular object, but it'll sure fit something else when I'm packing!); I saw in one Aus review of the Y they used soccer balls, and it appeared to be something they commonly do - perhaps they may have/will do the same thing with the Atto, which will give you some comparison.

 

And that review, like so many others, specifically commented on how capacious the Y was (both passenger and storage wise) - not something I've heard mentioned too many times about the boot of the Atto! Don't forget - the Y also has the under-boot and frunk spaces, which really adds to this usable capacity. I'm very comfortable in concluding - even without seeing either in person - that the Atto's storage capacity and flexibility aren't a patch on the Y, but that's as to be expected given they're not in the same car class, nor would see themselves as competition for the other.

 

Having done a significant amount of research in looking for which EVs would work for us, my conclusion was that the only other car that would provide adequate space (at a price that may have been affordable) is the Skoda Enyaq (585l), but that's not going to arrive in NZ until next year, and given how things are going there's a good chance it won't be under the rebate cap (how long the Y remains under is another consideration). When first announced I had hopes for the Toyota B#T^r3# or whatever it's called, but its boot is only 452l (with tiny under-boot and no frunk) - and that's before one considers all the other things that are so wrong with this car.

 

Anyway, here's an exciting video for you - 20+ minutes of Ryan Shaw measuring all dimensions of the MY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFQlXOCo3Fw

 

 

 

 

 

 

i have a feeling most SUVs are very close in actual "boot" capacity vs Model Y.

 

Y has sloping roof, big hole underboot. others have similar HxDxW and no underboot but taller roof for example, offsets this

 

the enyaq fits more banana boxes than the Y and so does the Ioniq 5. there are a few that are within 1-2 banana boxes so really it's not that much bigger

 

i would love dimensions vs reviewer's "impressions" of "wow its capacious trunk"


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  #2939943 9-Jul-2022 09:55
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Can I ask why the fixation on getting an accurate measurement of the Y's boot?! (I've been comfortable ordering one based on everything else I've read and watched - if I had waited to see it in the flesh I would have missed at least the first two shipments.)


 
 
 
 

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  #2939946 9-Jul-2022 10:02
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For anyone who's order misses out on the first shipment (I still don't have a VIN), I notice that the Armacup shipping schedule at https://armacup.co.nz/schedules/asia-to-oceania has been updated, and we can now see the next ship scheduled to do the Shanghai to NZ leg is Turandot voyage 2215, leaving 12th Aug, arriving Auckland 3rd September, which I guess would make a mid-september delivery.

 

 


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  #2939961 9-Jul-2022 11:30
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jonathan18:

 

Can I ask why the fixation on getting an accurate measurement of the Y's boot?! (I've been comfortable ordering one based on everything else I've read and watched - if I had waited to see it in the flesh I would have missed at least the first two shipments.)

 

 

i have 1 wife 3 kids 1 dog and travel across middle-of-nowheres up and down twisty nasty hilly open roads to sports 220km away - their sports bags are HUUUUUGe (dog is small but his crate does take up space) and no we can't put him or the sport bags in the sedan boots, frunks, roofboxes and SUV underboots

 

willing to compromise on the horrible lack of buttons and speedometer if it meets the needs

 

otherwise - cheap city EV + gas for out of city


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  #2939974 9-Jul-2022 12:03
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Batman:

 

willing to compromise on the horrible lack of buttons and speedometer if it meets the needs

 

 

I challenge you to keep track of how many of those buttons in your current vehicle you actually use and the frequency 😉





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  #2940038 9-Jul-2022 12:43
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Obraik:

 

Batman:

 

willing to compromise on the horrible lack of buttons and speedometer if it meets the needs

 

 

I challenge you to keep track of how many of those buttons in your current vehicle you actually use and the frequency 😉

 

 

I like the fact there is just one thumb wheel on each spoke of the steering wheel because I don’t have to glance down to see which control I need to press.
I’d really like them to add the ability for a “double click” or “press and hold” on the media controller wheel to bring up other functions because sometimes the voice control isn’t accurate enough.

 

The HVAC fan speed would be the one I would program as a first option because it will increase and decrease by single increments by voice, but can’t understand the numbers I say.

 

And press and hold to bring up the “Controls” page, with scroll and select options a bit like the iDrive control in the BMW does.

 

My aftermarket HUD solves the speedometer ‘problem’.





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