Transmission Gully progress towards opening

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#2894837 31-Mar-2022 15:49

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=162&topicid=290275&page_no=18#2894461

I sent a update request thru this morning outlining the missing junctions & road not connected, hopefully they get onto it quickly.

NZTA uses Google base maps also, they have been on my case as well to get it sorted.

Waze is owned by Google, but two different operations. Data sharing is Waze -> Google but not in reverse.

Waze has the most up to date maps as it is community driven.

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#2894840 31-Mar-2022 16:01

Google Maps (browser and Android app) shows TG for me, but it does not have the Waitangirua link roads to Whitby etc.

EDIT - Ahh, just clicked that these were the junctions that @Deanonzl mentioned earlier

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#2894909 31-Mar-2022 17:42

@alasta I have the same as you showing in Apple Maps on my iPhone 10 - but TG does not show as an available road on my iPad. However, as mentioned earlier, it does show as the recommended route when searching Directions on iPad.

Sometimes I just sit and think. Other times I just sit.

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#2894913 31-Mar-2022 18:11

I see on one news they were discussing the chips and chipped windscreens and paint, and that parts of the road are at 70 to allow the chips to bed down more. Vehicles driving over it to bed down the chips is apparently part of the process with building chip roads.

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#2894915 31-Mar-2022 18:15

mattwnz: I see on one news they were discussing the chips and chipped windscreens and paint, and that parts of the road are at 70 to allow the chips to bed down more. Vehicles driving over it to bed down the chips is apparently part of the process with building chip roads.

they leave excess chip on the road for about 3 weeks after its sealed in hope some of it sticks, it generally doesnt and just goes everywhere and takes the road makings with it (as they are painted on the loose top chip) they then sweep it and thats what you end up with.

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#2894919 31-Mar-2022 18:34

mattwnz: I see on one news they were discussing the chips and chipped windscreens and paint, and that parts of the road are at 70 to allow the chips to bed down more. Vehicles driving over it to bed down the chips is apparently part of the process with building chip roads.

And yet they accept no liability for the damage their cheapskate ways cause.

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#2894963 31-Mar-2022 21:03

Jase2985:
mattwnz: I see on one news they were discussing the chips and chipped windscreens and paint, and that parts of the road are at 70 to allow the chips to bed down more. Vehicles driving over it to bed down the chips is apparently part of the process with building chip roads.

they leave excess chip on the road for about 3 weeks after its sealed in hope some of it sticks, it generally doesnt and just goes everywhere and takes the road makings with it (as they are painted on the loose top chip) they then sweep it and thats what you end up with.

They did this to the street I live on and there are plenty of trucks going up and down. Did nothing to further bed it in.

For weeks several cars a day were sliding when trying to stop.

Took several additional road sweeps/vacuums over and above the planned two for most of the chips to be gone. I think it's super dangerous, can only imagine what it's like driving faster than 50. But I'm sure she'll be right.

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#2894970 31-Mar-2022 22:05

I can only wonder why the great road networks of Europe and the United States are not built with this cutting edge chipeseal technology. It continues to amaze me that we are the only people who realise how good it is....

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#2894980 31-Mar-2022 22:29

NZ isn't building a great road network on the scale of Europe or the US but not all their roads are gold plated either.

Deschutes County Oregon "By chip sealing, the county is able to extend the life of our roads in the most affordable way. Chip sealing costs about $25,000 per mile of treated road compared to a traditional 3” overlay of new asphalt that runs more than $200,000 for that same mile." The same cost comparisons will be done everywhere. 30% of US roads are unpaved.

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#2894983 31-Mar-2022 22:41

martyyn:

I'm so over drivers doing 60 in 80 and 80 in 100's, the cracked windscreens and the stone chips on our cars. Honestly the one we've used mainly to get to Porirua didn't have a mark on it before we started but now it's absolutely covered in stone chips.

I saw it was posted elsewhere that NZTA put out an advisory that they knew the surface was still crap and there'd be loose stones.

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/projects/wellington-northern-corridor/transmission-gully-motorway/how-to-drive-tg/chipseal/

"Even though our chipseal is being bedded in using rollers and other machinery, when Transmission Gully opens there will be loose chip around.

And while we’ll be minimising the risks of loose chip with regular sweeping, there are some key things to remember when driving over fresh chip seal:"

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#2894988 31-Mar-2022 22:51

I drove it today and I must say it is a damn nice drive. My Tesla however didn't know about it:

I do however think I may have got a stone chip on my windscreen - will need to check it tomorrow when it is light. This round I just took it easy, turned on Autopilot and set the absolute maximum following distance to prevent stones from hitting my car but didn't help people in the right hand lane speeding past.

Despite me driving slower (autopilot averaged around 80km/h) I did save a bit of time on my Kmart / Mall trip tonight. Some stats also (click to enlarge):

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#2895028 1-Apr-2022 05:50

... Chip sealing costs about $25,000 per mile of treated road compared to a traditional 3” overlay of new asphalt that runs more than $200,000 for that same mile." ...

So converting that to NZ number let's say it would have been NZ$200k per kilometre x 27 = just under $5.5M. Pretty much a rounding error considering the cost of the whole project.

I'm flabbergasted really. If someone spent several million $$$ designing and building a contemporary, fully automated, state-of-the-art 8 bedroom home on a 2 acre plot 10 minutes from Queenstown they wouldn't kit it out with MDF furniture from the Warehouse would they?

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#2895037 1-Apr-2022 07:45

The downer guy i spoke to up here said asphalt was about 3-4x the cost of chip seal but generally lasts about 3-4 times longer. so cost for cost is about the same in the long run, just less disruption for drivers.

the stuff uses on the Waikato expressway is semi porous to help it shed water better when it rains.

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#2895312 1-Apr-2022 13:28

Bung: NZ isn't building a great road network on the scale of Europe or the US but not all their roads are gold plated either.

Deschutes County Oregon "By chip sealing, the county is able to extend the life of our roads in the most affordable way. Chip sealing costs about $25,000 per mile of treated road compared to a traditional 3” overlay of new asphalt that runs more than $200,000 for that same mile." The same cost comparisons will be done everywhere. 30% of US roads are unpaved.

But few, if any, of their main highways are.

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#2895321 1-Apr-2022 13:56

Geektastic:

But few, if any, of their main highways are.

A little bit of realism wouldn't go amiss.

We have a GDP a fraction of the UK, We have a population a fraction of the UK and Land mass - well we win that! See the problem?

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