Failed my WOF on a 3 yr old car

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#3037352 15-Feb-2023 20:06

xlinknz:

Our WoF expires approx. 26th March

We'd like to know in advance whether it would pass and if not what may require to be done (and get that cost) since as the car is only worth approx. $4K we may elict to order AND receive a new car (@obraik that could be be a Model Y) before the current car (single car family) cannot be used

I read with interest if I get a WoF inspection done prior to the current WoF and it fails essentially I am at risk of bringing foward how much time we have to replace it

Is there any service available that essentially identifies what a WoF does without failing the WoF prior to the current WoF expiring

I see AA have mobile vehicle inspections but they are $184 unless I can ask for a WoF inspection and if it passes decline the WoF?!

The benefit of VTNZ is that they are independant

Thoughts?

You should be able to ask your local mechanic to do a pre-WoF inspection so they can see if there's anything that would fail the WoF prior to it expiring. But yeah, you will have to pay more than what a WoF would cost.

If you're ordering a new car to replace it, I would just go ahead with that and skip the pre-WoF inspection. If you order a Model Y today the ETA is February/March currently. There are also a few in inventory that should be available for immediate delivery 😉

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#3037356 15-Feb-2023 20:08

xlinknz:

Our WoF expires approx. 26th March

We'd like to know in advance whether it would pass and if not what may require to be done (and get that cost) since as the car is only worth approx. $4K we may elict to order AND receive a new car (@obraik that could be be a Model Y) before the current car (single car family) cannot be used

I read with interest if I get a WoF inspection done prior to the current WoF and it fails essentially I am at risk of bringing foward how much time we have to replace it

Is there any service available that essentially identifies what a WoF does without failing the WoF prior to the current WoF expiring

I see AA have mobile vehicle inspections but they are $184 unless I can ask for a WoF inspection and if it passes decline the WoF?!

The benefit of VTNZ is that they are independant

Thoughts?

The fundamental issue is if you have a fault which makes the car unroadworthy then you need to take appropriate action. A WOF is at one point in time, you are obligated to always have a car in roadworthy condition. If you know it's not safe you know it's not safe.

If the fault causes an accident and you know about it that may well invalidate your insurance.

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#3037371 15-Feb-2023 20:27

@obraik and @handle9

Thank you for your replies

@handle we do not know yet whether we have a fault which makes the car not road worthy. We were advised the rear shocks need to be looked at when yesterday an EGR (non WoF item) issue was diagnosed. Often garages say with good intentions this and that should be looked or is coming up despite being warrantable.

What I have found is that VTNZ offer a range srevices beyond a WoF such as a Safety Assessment and Vehicle Assessment. I'd ask them tomorrow whether the Safety Asessment essnetially covers a WoF

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#3037426 16-Feb-2023 06:49

if you took your car to the dealer from which you bought the car, and the dealer says the car that is under warranty is not roadworthy i'd tell them to give me a new car or i'd go on national TV

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#3037427 16-Feb-2023 07:01

Handle9:

sir1963:

The argument goes: Without a WOF the vehicle should not have been on the road. If it had not been on the Roa the accident would not have occurred. The law states you must have a current WOF, therefore you were breaking the law. Based on that, we don't pay out.

That argument isn't supported by case law. It's garbage.

Agree. IANAL, but believe this is the relevant bit of legislation that underpins it - essentially insurance can only be declined for a reason relevant to the claim

https://legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1977/0014/latest/DLM442558.html?search=ts_act%40bill%40regulation%40deemedreg_insurance_resel_25_a&p=1

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#3037430 16-Feb-2023 07:29

Batman: I had the same fine from Auckland City Council.

Expired car expired everything, parked on what I thought was my lawn grass but apparently it was council land but I don't know I don't have the plans it's the parents' house.

In the same year I was ticketed for dropping off my brother at auckland university. I had no idea that was even illegal.

You guessed it. Auckland City Council. I was watching that guy after that, he was just standing at the uni handing out tickets to people getting dropped off.

Outside your fence line is probably the road reserve, belongs to council, you don't need the plans to figure that out.

And I assume you got ticketed for stopping in a clearway or on yellow dashed lines, not sure that you should be surprised that this is illegal, so it's not the act of dropping off that's the problem, is it?
A result of having school aged kids is that I get to see all the lazy idiots who stop in places where it is not legal to do so, ever time I have to do the school run. It's like motorists think the law changes because they're on an errand!

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#3037433 16-Feb-2023 07:55

xlinknz:

Our WoF expires approx. 26th March

We'd like to know in advance whether it would pass and if not what may require to be done (and get that cost) since as the car is only worth approx. $4K we may elict to order AND receive a new car (@obraik that could be be a Model Y) before the current car (single car family) cannot be used

I read with interest if I get a WoF inspection done prior to the current WoF and it fails essentially I am at risk of bringing foward how much time we have to replace it

Is there any service available that essentially identifies what a WoF does without failing the WoF prior to the current WoF expiring

I see AA have mobile vehicle inspections but they are $184 unless I can ask for a WoF inspection and if it passes decline the WoF?!

The benefit of VTNZ is that they are independant

Thoughts?

Yes, you could ask a WOF garage to do a vehicle inspection, or any regular service should identify WOF level faults. VTNZ/VINZ have a 'pre-COF' service for heavy vehicles, but don't think they have a similar service for light vehicles.

The fact that it fails does not (in reality) "revoke" the existing WOF. For example if stopped by the Police, their records will still show the WOF as current. The issue may only be a problem if something happens such as being involved in a crash. That said, if the fault is a safety critical item (brakes, tyres, steering), the correct course of action would be to immediately stop using the vehicle until it is fixed.

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#3037439 16-Feb-2023 08:48

Cars do seem to be getting over-electron-icised.

I'd be interested to know the benefit of an electronic handbrake.

In my job I'm responsible for diesel powered vessels. When a modern diesel engine breaks down it's almost always some electronic or electronically actuated component.

Actual mechanical problems are quite rare. We are typically getting 30,000 - 40,000 hours out of diesel engines without mechanical issues. But ... a sensor, loom or actuator, every 5,000 hours or so.

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#3037443 16-Feb-2023 08:56

MikeAqua:

I'd be interested to know the benefit of an electronic handbrake.

The benefit is that is occupies less space on the transmission tunnel, hence allowing more space for storage of small personal items.

The OP indicated that the switch has failed. In my experience switchgear failures are extremely rare so it sounds like a case of bad luck rather than over-complicated design.

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#3037453 16-Feb-2023 09:29

The other benefits include automatic enable and disable when vehicles are put in park/drive (while foot is on the brake). The number of people who drive automatics and rely on a single parking pin would surprise I suspect. Plus evolution is natural, otherwise the argument is the same for electric windows.

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#3037463 16-Feb-2023 09:52

alasta:
The benefit is that is occupies less space on the transmission tunnel, hence allowing more space for storage of small personal items.

The OP indicated that the switch has failed. In my experience switchgear failures are extremely rare so it sounds like a case of bad luck rather than over-complicated design.

Any switch on the transmission tunnel is probably at risk of spillage from cups aimed at the holders.

I haven't used electric handbrakes often but they seem to have all been momentary contact push down/pull up similar to a window switch. It's hard to see how it would become stiff unless something has got into it.

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#3037480 16-Feb-2023 11:05

If you search through Kia owner forums it seems that various models have the same problem with the EPB switch. If you lift the switch up with more than reasonable finger pressure the pivot point starts to break eventually collapsing. The manual says pull the switch leading some to think that how much they pull has some effect on how much the brake comes on.

There was further discussion about Auto Hold. If that was on when car switched off the parking brake was actived.

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#3037490 16-Feb-2023 11:14

BlakJak:
Batman: I had the same fine from Auckland City Council.

Expired car expired everything, parked on what I thought was my lawn grass but apparently it was council land but I don't know I don't have the plans it's the parents' house.

In the same year I was ticketed for dropping off my brother at auckland university. I had no idea that was even illegal.

You guessed it. Auckland City Council. I was watching that guy after that, he was just standing at the uni handing out tickets to people getting dropped off.

Outside your fence line is probably the road reserve, belongs to council, you don't need the plans to figure that out.

And I assume you got ticketed for stopping in a clearway or on yellow dashed lines, not sure that you should be surprised that this is illegal, so it's not the act of dropping off that's the problem, is it?
A result of having school aged kids is that I get to see all the lazy idiots who stop in places where it is not legal to do so, ever time I have to do the school run. It's like motorists think the law changes because they're on an errand!

i stopped beside a row of parked cars for a few seconds. not sure where else to stop. the entire street is lined with parked cars, no designated drop off zone

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#3037495 16-Feb-2023 11:20

I wonder what would happen if you replaced the switch with a standard toggle switch..... I.e. a temporary job

As far as I can see this would not trigger the necessity of a LVV Cert

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#3037501 16-Feb-2023 11:39

The switch is one of several with a multipin connection rather than individual wires. The dealership probably wouldn't want to Frankenstein something.

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